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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 02/01/2012 at 17:07 #26659 | |
postal
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I was going from what I have previously done in the sim rather than from personal experience or knowledge. The Wikipedia article on the station does indeed note that only the outer lines are electrified right through (P3 also has OHLE but as a terminating point only) so it looks as if there is a data error in the sim. I'll put it up on the Bug Board so that Daza can take a look. Thanks for the correction. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 02/01/2012 at 17:52 #26667 | |
58050
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New version 7.0d is now available in the download section. Thanks to the moderators for quick upload.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 03/01/2012 at 16:22 #26740 | |
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58050
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For anyone playing V7.0d of this timetable & hasn't already sussed the changes. The main difference is when loco 0L69F appears there is a number on the end of the Train ID which in effect tells you what day of the week the timetable will run. EG: 1=Monday, 2=Tuesday, 3 Wednesday etc etc. Therefore removing the chances of trains appearing that run on selective days of the week. Thanks go to John(Postal) for his excellent work on the improvements to this timetable.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 16/01/2012 at 05:47 #27418 | |
BarryM
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" said:For anyone playing V7.0d of this timetable & hasn't already sussed the changes. The main difference is when loco 0L69F appears there is a number on the end of the Train ID which in effect tells you what day of the week the timetable will run. EG: 1=Monday, 2=Tuesday, 3 Wednesday etc etc. Therefore removing the chances of trains appearing that run on selective days of the week. Thanks go to John(Postal) for his excellent work on the improvements to this timetable.Pascal/John, I have come across 2 problems at the moment. 4V07 from Rover siding, The departure location is incorrect or the Line is incorrect. At Snow Hill, 5H22 and 2M01 clash with each other in P3 at 06:33. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 16/01/2012 at 09:31 #27425 | |
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postal
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" said:4V07 from Rover siding, The departure location is incorrect or the Line is incorrect.Barry Afraid it looks as if they slipped through the net as versions have gone backwards and forwards between Pascal and myself. It is very much Pascal's TT on which he has spent a huge amount of time and effort. I have been helping him with a bit of tidying up and rule manipulation in the latter stages, but it is his work that has got us this far. According to my changelog, I amended 4V07 as "Entry point changed to Longbridge Rover (Rec/Dep)" and 5H22 as "2mins pathing added. Arr Snow Hill 06:35". I'll need to go back and check what is in the published TT as against my file version in case there are any other changes that have not carried through and then get Pascal/AndyG to update the download copy. Thanks for the info. Edit: Just downloaded the site version of the TT and it includes the 2 changes recorded in my log. Is the file date 02/12/11 on your copy? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 16/01/2012 at 09:44 by postal Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 16/01/2012 at 16:44 #27471 | |
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Yes thanks for the notification Barry. Y thought we'd cacked as you were the first to post an issue after the V7.0d release. Although John is 'thanking' my efforts in producing this timetable, it is been improved alot due to his efforts in tidying it up as he says. John been doing all the amendments which in effect has allowed me to continue writing another Saltley timetable based on 1979-1980, which should see its first online test within a fortnight if I get as much done as I think I can. But will look into these 2 issues for y7ou Barry. Thank You.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 16/01/2012 at 20:57 #27495 | |
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BarryM
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" said:" said:Oops! Sorry John, I had "c" version loaded. I'll try "d" for you. I thought I had updated my files.4V07 from Rover siding, The departure location is incorrect or the Line is incorrect.Barry "d" version has corrected the required changes so far. I'll continue checking. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 23/01/2012 at 06:44 #28041 | |
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BarryM
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Hi John, I found another small anomaly at Moor Street/Snow Hill. 2S09 is ringing for the signal at Moor St at 09:15 to move to P2 Snow Hill. However 2C09 is not due to leave P2 till 09:15. Looking back, I am wondering whether 2S08 should have gone into P3 which divides forming 2C09 as P3 is vacant from 08:55 to 09:20. P1 would be no good as it would cause clashes, Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 23/01/2012 at 06:46 by BarryM Reason: add Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 23/01/2012 at 10:09 #28046 | |
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postal
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Barry I can't speak for Pascal who put together the TT in the first place, but I noticed that when going through the TT and decided to leave it as the conflict was so minor. 2S09 is due Snow Hill P2 09:16 - 09:19H which is a long dwell time for a unit on a through train so if anyone is desperately worried the WTT can be tweaked to show Moor Street dep 09:16, Snow Hill arr 09:17; I don't expect the public TT would be tweaked to show a similar change. I wouldn't expect to post a new copy of the TT unless it contains a few more changes than that. Thanks for the nudge, though. The name of the game is to get a TT that works rather than being a bit precious about one's own little baby. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 23/01/2012 at 16:26 #28058 | |
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John/Barry, the times are as per the WTT. The long stop as you put it could be something to do with regulation or possibly the inbound unit was formed of more than one(which doesn't show in WTT) & subsequently splits. In which case would definately mean an alteration to the tt. Confirmation would have to come from certain players who have local knowledge of the services mentioned, unless someone has an SWB for Snow Hill at that time period. But as John states best left as it is. In all respects thanks for the notification Barry.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:06 #29379 | |
Splodge
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Just dragging this back, but I seem to have hit an odd problem with the seeding train. First time round ('easy' mode but with problems, bad weather and 2 scenarios set!) I mistakenly told the seed loco to call back in 15 minutes. It never called. I was unsure whether this might affect the TT as the train hadn't entered, so I tried again with the same settings as above. The same problem occured despite allowing the loco to proceed immediately. Will this affect the running of the TT? Also, 2Z99W and 0Z99 simply refuse to join following the run around manoeuvre at Kings Norton. Any ideas? There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:12 #29381 | |
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Curious with regards to 2Z99W & 0Z99, having said that I've never played it with 'bad weather & it has always worked OK whenever I've played it, both solo & multi-play sessions. As for the seed loco, John(Postal) would be better explaining that one as that was the work he did for this timetable.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:14 #29382 | |
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Splodge
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Further to my last - I have now tried a third (same settings again) and fourth (standard scenario, default options) time with the same result - I receive a phone call but no loco enters. Also of note regarding the TT is that it has always been the same loco (0L69F1 - Monday). Finally, this has been with the latest TT version (7.0d). There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:19 #29384 | |
AndyG
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It may be the small hiccup in the phone call code, where a 'part-time' train may or may not enter, but you get the call before the sim has decided whether it's to run or not.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:20 #29386 | |
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BarryM
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" said:Are you using the A & D line for the run around? Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:21 #29387 | |
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postal
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Splodge Never seen the seed not entering. It takes a short while after the phone call, but it has always entered for me (so far). Which scenarios were invoked in case that has anything to do with it? The TT will still run. However a lot of trains will be missing (rules that 6??? must enter 0 minutes after 0L69? has entered) and some trains will run that should maybe not appear (rules that 6??? must not run if 0L69? runs). “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:24 #29388 | |
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As Postal says I have never seen the 'seed' loco not enter either. Also I've never had 0L69F1, it's usually been 0L69F3 or 0L69F4 whenever I've played it.
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 18:33 #29389 | |
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postal
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" said:Further to my last - I have now tried a third (same settings again) and fourth (standard scenario, default options) time with the same result - I receive a phone call but no loco enters.That is very odd because 0L69F1 should only run 20% of the time and in testing it hit that figure (give or take). Have you closed the sim down completely and then re-loaded or has it been the same run of the program for each of the events? Is the TT for 0L69F1 checked to show 20% probability (in case the TT has become corrupted at some stage)? I've just run through 10 starts on Easy mode and got: Mon 2 Tue 3 Wed 1 Thu 1 Fri 3 “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 13/02/2012 at 19:16 #29393 | |
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Splodge
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Right - not sure why it has made a difference, but it turns out I was using an out of date version of Saltley (London meet version probably, although I could have sworn I downloaded and installed the latest version when that was released!), xxx.35 rather than xxx.40. This has allowed the seed train to call and enter as normal - what is odd is that trains entering there have never had a problem before, but this seed train does. Also got the Wednesday train for a change! This has also fixed the 2Z99 joining issue. Sorry to get everyone worked up 
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| Re: Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 08/05/2012 at 16:06 #32189 | |
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grahamj42
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6E07W1 runs 24 hours early - enters at 00:08 but first timing point is 24/10
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| Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 25/08/2012 at 15:59 #35180 | |
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Javelin395
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I'm a recent convert to Saltley as it took me some time to get used to the layout and scale of the sim. Currently playing the 1995-1996 TT and have a problem with 5O50R not fitting into P1 at Stratford-upon-Avon. Have read through this thread and seen it was a problem with the origin issue of the TT. However, I'm playing V7.0d1 and was under the impression this had been fixed. Have checked TT for 5O50R and its stopping position is showing as F. Not complaining - just thought I'd bring it to your attention. A very challenging sim and TT. Many thanks to all concerned. Log in to reply |
| Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 25/09/2012 at 10:32 #35837 | |
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njimiller
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Very much enjoying running this timetable. I particularly enjoy with the older timetables discovering the journeys that you used to be able to make - I mean - Worcester Foregate Street to Norwich! Nick Log in to reply |
| Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 27/09/2012 at 21:08 #35882 | |
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trolleybus
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Just finished this, having got all the way through it twice. It's an excellent TT on a great sim. For the size of work it's astonishingly free of errors. I encountered two problems, or rather the same one twice, and that's that trains to/from Daw Mill don't entirely fit into the reception sidings, so you get a lockup if you try to park a train in one siding then signal another out of the colliery. I didn't check lengths/stopping points to see if this is correctable: I just cheated and shortened the trains. Log in to reply |
| Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 27/09/2012 at 22:38 #35885 | |
jc92
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" said:Just finished this, having got all the way through it twice. It's an excellent TT on a great sim. For the size of work it's astonishingly free of errors.it was tested at least twice by pascal and myself before any release to ensure minimal errors. the train length will be correct (around 345m for 36 HAAs + cl.60/58/56.) i would suggest trying FX as a stopping point if it is becoming an issue. Joe "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Saltley 1995-1996 timetable 28/09/2012 at 09:19 #35894 | |
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Trolleybus, you mention the MGR trains from Daw Mill Colliery aren't clearing the loop. These would be MGR trains heading towards Nuneaton. I had no problem when I ran the timetable & as Joe(jc92) pointed out we tested the timetable on many occasions. One question for you, are you signalling the train from signal SY.324 into the neck? Because you have to do that for the loco of the train to get behind signal DAW2 as it propels out of the colliery & then you can set the route from DAW2 to signal SY.325 on the Up Nuneaton. The MGR consists are corret as per the Midlands Zone loads book for 1996. I suspect you weren't signalling the train into the neck, hence the train wasn't clearing the loop.
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