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Has this happened to anybody else? 10/12/2016 at 10:57 #89820
bugsy
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Yesterday I created a post which I intended to submit with an attachment under the heading ‘Gloucester’.
Now, here is a problem that I encountered followed by the solution:
Initially when I tried to attach a ‘saved game’ file, SimSig couldn’t find the file on my Windows 10 laptop computer. Odd, I thought, so I opened Windows Explorer and navigated to the folder where I expected to find this file and it wasn’t there (C:\\ Program Files\SimSig\Gloucester). In fact, none of my Gloucester saved game files were in there. Neither were there any of my Cambridge or Southampton saved games in their respective folders.
I initiated a search of my hard and this resulted in ‘file not found’. Now this is also odd, as when I want to open a saved game in the program, all of them are available to select and the path to the file is shown exactly as above. So, the question is ‘where are they on the computer?
I’m lucky enough to have a son who has a degree in Computer Science, so whenever I get a computer problem that I can’t resolve myself, I phone him. He took remote control of my laptop and I watched the mouse pointer whizzing all over the screen. He was doing things so fast that he just lost me. Anyway, within a few minutes the said ‘Ah, I see’. Now, I don’t think that he was entirely sure at this point why this had happened, but he found them in the following location:
C:\\ Users\my name\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\SimSig\Gloucester.
(Note: ‘my name’ would obviously have to be substituted for your own name or your computers’ name, whatever that might be.)
Not only that, my Cambridge and Southampton folders with their saved games were I there too!
So, this is where I now find files for these particular simulations. I also conducted an experiment: Started a Carlisle simulation, ran it for a couple of minutes, saved a game and ‘hey presto’. A new ‘Carlisle’ folder had been created containing the saved game.
Now, I may be the only person to have come across this situation, but if other SimSig members have also had this problem, I hope that the solution above is of help.
I will just add that I found all of my saved games for the Loader simulations were where I expected to find them and where they have always been.
Finally, I did submit the post with a ‘saved game’ attachment and have just seen a reply to my query. Off to sort the troublesome trains out now 

Happy SimSig-ing
Bugsy

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Has this happened to anybody else? 10/12/2016 at 11:07 #89821
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This is standard behaviour. Earlier versions of Windows (XP and before) allowed users to save directly to the Program Files folder. As modifying files in that folder could break applications (either by user error or malicious software), later versions of Windows restrict user access, and a 'shadow' folder is created whenever you attempt to save something there. It is possible to override it by right-clicking on the folder you want to save to, clicking 'properties' and modifying the settings in the Security menu.

Loader simulations work around this by installing in the Public Documents directory instead. Some of the .exes have the option to do this as well, I can't remember offhand if Gloucester is one of them.

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Has this happened to anybody else? 10/12/2016 at 11:48 #89822
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Many of the folders on a system that is vista (deffinatly windows 7, I have never used vista so I don't know the structure) or higher only have read access for standard users (the main folders that a standard user can read/write to are their own documents folder), even if you are a user in the administrator group your account operates as a standard account unless you run as adminitrator or run a program that prompts for higher privileges you account will run as a standard account (this is where the User Account Control [UAC] came in to effect)

Therefore as the 'Program Files' and 'Program Files (x86)' are read only for standard accounts (even an account is in the administators group) so another option was needed to store files that saved data in the 'Program Files' and 'Program Files (x86)' folders and this resulted in the 'virtualstore' folder 'x:\Users\%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore'


For info BUT NOT recomended

You can save direct to the 'Program Files' and 'Program Files (x86)' folders using an account in the administators group only by turning off 'UAC' or you could edit the permissions of the folders, (these actions are NOT recomended at all as they will compromise the security of your system) also if you use the account named as 'administrator' (disabled by default) you can run any and all programs with full admin privileges, this is the only account that does not need to use the 'UAC'

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