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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 09:46 #53606
Hyper999
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I'm working on a timetable but is the a website that I can use for the length of train (aka the amount of coaches)
I know about RealTrainTimes but that dosn't show how long or the class of train half the time

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 10:13 #53607
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I'm working on a timetable for Brighton but can't find a website that will show the length of the trains (like if it was formed of 4 or 8 coaches)
Could anyone help out by pointing me into the direction of a website that does show the length

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 13:36 #53611
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Hey Hyper,

If you go to the downloads section, other stuff and download length calculator the tool will really help. It's an Excel document so you either need Excel or OpenOffice Calc to use it.

It has lengths for coaches, EMU's, DMU's and other kinds of trains as well as conversion tables.

Download the Length Calculator here

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 13:50 #53612
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What I mean was if it was a 4 or 8 coach, I know for example each coach on a Class 377 is roughly 20-21m long
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 14:04 #53613
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All I'd know to do was If I knew each coach was 21 Meters then I'd just punch in the math of each coach. Or If I can't find the length of a train then I use the measurements from a previous timetable somebody else made, and just hope it's correct
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 14:10 #53614
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I mean I don't know how many coaches long the trains are (they very) or even which Class of train. For example,leaving Brighton along the East/West Coastway lines, they use Class 171/313/377

I know roughly the lenth per coach but I don't know how many coaches for each train as each one is sligtly different. At Haywards Heath some divid/attach

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 14:13 #53615
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Personally, I don't know much more on the topic than that so I can't help any more than I can, sorry about that :(

Hopefully more people will know the answers in the evening I am afraid

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 14:14 #53616
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I think he means diagrams, like is it 4/8/12 car sets.

If it's for Brighton, then join the 'UKModernEMU' group on Yahoo Groups, which has some Southern/FCC Diagrams that will be of use, will tell you if it's booked for 4, 8 or 12.

FGW is mainly a 3 car class 158's or 2 car class 158/class 150 if substituting for a 158 3 car

For freight bits, I generally try to google the headcode and the destination to see if there's any photos/video's online. Can work for passenger services too


EDIT

Oh and to add to that, class 171's can be anything from when they rota round from Selhurst, however it's mainly 2 car 171's with the odd 4 car that might appear on one circuit

Last edited: 06/01/2014 at 14:15 by Underwood
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 14:22 #53617
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I know about the 171's as I used that to go on Holiday but the FCC/SN trains are more varied
Also if SN use there 313's or 377's

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 15:12 #53618
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The only other thing you can try & get is a station working book for Brighton which covers the period the timetable you are writing covers as they generally have the formation of each train in them. The website 1H07 may help you, link below:-

http://www.prar.fsnet.co.uk/diagrams.html

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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 15:52 #53619
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I'm trying to do the current timetable
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 17:00 #53621
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If it's a multiple unit/fixed formation train you're looking for, this Wiki page gives the length, along with other details.

If you don't know which class of train works certain services, post them below- someone will probably know what class tends to work which service.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 17:25 #53622
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Right now how many units are working together and along the coastway lines I don't know which class
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 17:52 #53623
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They're incredibly varied around Brighton - your best option really is to look on one of those Gen groups previously mentioned by Underwood
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Timetable Making 06/01/2014 at 18:00 #53624
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Will do, I might also go down to Brighton (as it's not far from me) and just get an idea of the typical hourly pattern
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