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| VC101 Oddly Placed 11/02/2014 at 02:42 #55394 | |
Jsun
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VC101 in the 2000 era seems to be an odd one out. Is the signal for an over-length train to set back from P15 or just an anomaly?
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| VC101 Oddly Placed 11/02/2014 at 08:38 #55399 | |
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mfcooper
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We don't know why it was there, and we had to use it! It was removed as part of the Victoria Station conversion from Route Relay Interlocking (RRI) to Solid State Interlocking (SSI) over Christmas/New Year just gone. Log in to reply |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 13/02/2014 at 23:08 #55532 | |
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Jsun
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Well, I found an impromptu tactical use for it. If a train is signaled onto the DF and a train is running UP the BRV line the routes to VC521 (main aspect) cannot be used. However from P15 a train can be signaled via VC101 to VC521, that's the only move I've had to use it for just now.
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| VC101 Oddly Placed 14/02/2014 at 00:26 #55536 | |
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mfcooper
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" said:Well, I found an impromptu tactical use for it. If a train is signaled onto the DF and a train is running UP the BRV line the routes to VC521 (main aspect) cannot be used. However from P15 a train can be signaled via VC101 to VC521, that's the only move I've had to use it for just now.But why bother? You just end up with a train stuck at VC521 with nowhere to go! Therefore the back of the train at VC521 is blocking the station throat. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Jsun |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 14/02/2014 at 01:17 #55538 | |
DriverCurran
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And if this mode of signalling was employed for a train conveying persons would result in you being asked to give a nice trained collection agent a sample of bodily fluid for examination for certain substances. Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply The following user said thank you: UKTrainMan |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 14/02/2014 at 09:12 #55544 | |
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Jsun
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This is the trap I fell for with a class 5, it would have worked out but I hadn't noticed the BRV train was stopping at the staff halt, leading to quite an embarrassing delay.
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| VC101 Oddly Placed 21/02/2014 at 23:12 #55968 | |
DaveBarraza
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" said:And if this mode of signalling was employed for a train conveying persons would result in you being asked to give a nice trained collection agent a sample of bodily fluid for examination for certain substances.Hmmm. Really? Stuck half in half out is that serious over in the UK? Last edited: 21/02/2014 at 23:14 by DaveBarraza Log in to reply |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 21/02/2014 at 23:31 #55969 | |
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JamesN
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" said:" said:No, but shunt routes for passenger trains is (generally) a big nonoAnd if this mode of signalling was employed for a train conveying persons would result in you being asked to give a nice trained collection agent a sample of bodily fluid for examination for certain substances.Hmmm. Really? Stuck half in half out is that serious over in the UK? Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DaveBarraza |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 22/02/2014 at 10:20 #55987 | |
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mfcooper
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Most routes from shunt signals (and along goods lines) do not have standard distance overlaps. In many cases they have no overlaps. In general, it has been deemed unsafe by "The Powers That Be" to allow passenger trains to move between signals without overlaps. Of course, there are exceptions to this, be it shunt signals having a full overlap to special operating instructions. Regarding VC101, Since I started at Vic in Sept' 2010 to when VC101 was removed over Christmas 2013, I never saw it used. You don't have to even press it to get trains out of Plat 14/15 towards VC521. And Dave, getting a train half-in/half-out never ends well. Especially if the driver hasn't realised and releases the doors... :S :whistle: Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DaveBarraza |
| VC101 Oddly Placed 22/02/2014 at 16:33 #56018 | |
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kbarber
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" said:Most routes from shunt signals (and along goods lines) do not have standard distance overlaps. In many cases they have no overlaps. In general, it has been deemed unsafe by "The Powers That Be" to allow passenger trains to move between signals without overlaps. Even less well if it's the middle of the rush hour and the back end is right across the throat, blocking (n + quite a lot) platforms and the next train in rear is already closely approaching the signal that just stepped up to yellow  I think the technical term is a 'rough peak' 
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| VC101 Oddly Placed 04/03/2014 at 04:04 #56505 | |
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DaveBarraza
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I agree that once you open the doors that a sample is surely required!!!
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