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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff

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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 09/06/2015 at 15:55 #73103
Andrew G
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Noticed this on another forum and thought it might be of interest.

http://www.sydneytrains.info/about/heritage/oral_history

There is a video clip and a PDF file.

Video clip does include some footage in a Signalling Centre.

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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 09/06/2015 at 20:08 #73105
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Interesting video. First time I've seen a train able to move off with a door open though. Nice to get acknowledgement that the staff system originated in UK.
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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 10/06/2015 at 03:08 #73108
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Very well written report, albeit a little confusing with respect to the South Coast "Train Control" Centre. This is actually a Signalling Centre staffed by Area Controllers. The interviewer implies that AC John Doyle is a Train Controller, however, a TC performs a different role and are all located in Sydney. Like the UK, Signal Boxes and Signalling Centres are dotted all over the Railcorp network. The Train Controllers, who oversee operations of the entire Railcorp area, are located in a separate operations centre known as Rail Management Control (RMC). Area Controllers, for the most part, work autonomously, however, The Train Controller has the final say on management of traffic, track work and incidents.

For the record, this report chronicles the demise of staff working in the Railcorp (Sydney Trains) area of NSW but certainly not the rest of NSW or, indeed, Australia. Whilst none of the NSW tracks managed by John Holland have any staff working any more, parts of the NSW network managed by ARTC still use both Electric Staff and Ordinary Staff & Ticket systems.

Queensland still has a handful of Ordinary Staff sections but no Electric Staff. Most of the remaining Ordinary Staff sections are "Block Staff" (IE: Staff & Ticket without tickets). These are in use on lines that are infrequently used and it is not cost effective to convert that line to their dark territory system, DTC.

I believe Staff and Ticket and Electric Staff is still in use in Victoria but none exist, that I'm aware of, in any other state of Australia, notwithstanding independent heritage railway systems.

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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 10/06/2015 at 06:31 #73109
ozrail
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I really don't understand how the Heritage Section of Sydney Trains could get it so wrong. The Wollongong Signal Box is in Wollongong and the RMC Train Control centre is in Sydney. Although trust me it's not the first time. Having said that it is very well done. Maybe it was just meant for public consumption. The ETS rules are still current on the Rail Safety website even though it was removed a year ago?
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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 10/06/2015 at 11:06 #73117
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The video was produced prior to Warwick Allison's retirement from RailCorp in June 2014.

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Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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New South Wales - Electric Train Staff 10/06/2015 at 11:26 #73118
ozrail
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Warwick Allison will be a great lost to railway signalling, but I am happy for his retirement.
Last edited: 10/06/2015 at 11:33 by ozrail
Reason: update

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