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Stonebridge park exit penalty 13/11/2016 at 22:53 #87331
alan_s
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When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
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Stonebridge park exit penalty 13/11/2016 at 23:48 #87334
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alan_s in post 87331 said:
When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
Most important that you read this sim's manual. Click the link to open the manual. It will answer your question.

https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:wembleysub

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Stonebridge park exit penalty 13/11/2016 at 23:55 #87335
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BarryM in post 87334 said:
alan_s in post 87331 said:
When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
Most important that you read this sim's manual. Click the link to open the manual. It will answer your question.

https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:wembleysub

Barry
That doesn't really answer the question!? (Having now tested the bug it doesn't answer it at all)

alan_s in post 87331 said:
When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
I have tested the simulation with the default 2006 timetable. Trains correctly give TRTS at signals 32 and 34. I will investigate the timetable you've used now.

The problem is caused by the trains not being timetabled at "Stonebridge Park Signal 34" as they are in the default timetable. Mantis 16111 applies.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Stonebridge park exit penalty 14/11/2016 at 04:17 #87336
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headshot119 in post 87335 said:
BarryM in post 87334 said:
alan_s in post 87331 said:
When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
Most important that you read this sim's manual. Click the link to open the manual. It will answer your question.

https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:wembleysub

Barry
That doesn't really answer the question!? (Having now tested the bug it doesn't answer it at all)

alan_s in post 87331 said:
When exiting stonebridge park I get a penalty for setting route before TRTS. However trains do not seem to give TRTS when leaving, they just sit at the red signal and telephone complaining that the signal is red ! The is the Friday 2012 timetable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
I have tested the simulation with the default 2006 timetable. Trains correctly give TRTS at signals 32 and 34. I will investigate the timetable you've used now.

The problem is caused by the trains not being timetabled at "Stonebridge Park Signal 34" as they are in the default timetable. Mantis 16111 applies.
Thanks Karl. One thing that was not picked up on testing. Should the timetable not validate?

Barry

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Stonebridge park exit penalty 14/11/2016 at 19:42 #88343
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I think the manual says that this penalty is here because signallers are forbidden from setting the route out until they get TRTS.

I'll fix this when I get time. Not sure whether the answer is to require the location in timetables or to simulate TRTS from trains that don't have it as a timetabled stop. Probably the latter, because the former wouldn't stop it being made a passing point.

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Stonebridge park exit penalty 14/11/2016 at 19:50 #88344
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When I played this sim, I believe I triggered TRTS myself from the incident control panel, but obviously a proper fix would be nice.
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