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london underground 23/12/2016 at 09:40 #91064 | |
barrylarry
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wouldn't it be great if someone made a london underground SimSig????
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london underground 23/12/2016 at 11:09 #91065 | |
andyb0607
260 posts |
Already have the Victoria line and Waterloo and City. Plus Marlylebone has the met line from Harrow to Amersham.
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london underground 23/12/2016 at 11:53 #91068 | |
Steamer
3958 posts |
Plus the Bakerloo line from Queens Park- Harrow & Wealdstone on Wembley Suburban.
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london underground 23/12/2016 at 12:18 #91069 | |
Peter Bennet
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I have it in mind to do the sub-surface network at some point. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
london underground 23/12/2016 at 22:28 #91085 | |
TUT
514 posts |
Peter Bennet in post 91069 said:I have it in mind to do the sub-surface network at some point.Wow, that'd be an amazing sim. I don't know what the process is like for creating a sim, I guess it might be a bit easier once the colour light signals have all gone and the boxes have been decommissioned as LU might be a bit more forthcoming with information, but I assume it's easier if you can actually visit a working signal box/control room - in which case time is of the essence! The SSR has already changed a lot and will look very different in a few years' time. Log in to reply |
london underground 24/12/2016 at 08:54 #91087 | |
metcontrol
217 posts |
There's probably still a good 15-18 months before the first box closes. Many years before (if) the last one shuts. However one thing that is unlikely to change is LU's views on releasing the information.
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london underground 24/12/2016 at 11:21 #91088 | |
kbarber
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metcontrol in post 91087 said:There's probably still a good 15-18 months before the first box closes. Many years before (if) the last one shuts. However one thing that is unlikely to change is LU's views on releasing the information.However, if (IF!!!) signal positions can be established, it is possible to calculate overlaps (and therefore at least some of the likely TC breaks). If I get chance over the Christmas break I'll look up the formula (it's in OS Nock's book that was written for - mainly - budding signal engineers, but facinating for us non-professionals as well). Likewise it should be possible to get a reasonable idea of likely TC breaks on the approach to closing-up signals, on the basis of signal behaviour as trains approach (and I suspect they tend to be fairly standard anyway). Probably not possible to do it to the usual level of Simsig pedantry (sorry, accuracy) but should be possible to create a 'good-enough' version. Last edited: 24/12/2016 at 11:22 by kbarber Reason: Minor correction Log in to reply |
london underground 24/12/2016 at 22:47 #91100 | |
headshot119
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london underground 02/04/2017 at 15:47 #94284 | |
Jezzabusdriver
75 posts |
I travelled quite a bit yesterday in Zone 1 using the Underground, it would be good if the Northern Line or the Jubilee line got done especially as the latter has a train every 2 minutes so would keep you on your toes if something went wrong
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london underground 02/04/2017 at 16:32 #94285 | |
Sacro
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Jezzabusdriver in post 94284 said:I travelled quite a bit yesterday in Zone 1 using the Underground, it would be good if the Northern Line or the Jubilee line got done especially as the latter has a train every 2 minutes so would keep you on your toes if something went wrongBoth are Thales’ SelTrac® CBTC controlled and probably wouldn't be easy to simulate in SimSig, perhaps the previous signalling systems might be done one day, but then the service pattern wouldn't be as insane. Log in to reply |
london underground 02/04/2017 at 17:40 #94291 | |
GW43125
495 posts |
I presume it wouldn't be possible to create an up-to-date VicLUL sim?
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london underground 02/04/2017 at 18:20 #94292 | |
metcontrol
217 posts |
As far as the Jubilee and Northern are concerned, as much as their service frequency is high, there really isn't that much to keep you occupied until things go wrong. Even then the current system does a lot of the work for you. There are very few flat junctions to cause conflict, and most of their service simply shuttles backwards and forwards from one end to the other. As far as the Victoria Line goes, not a great deal has changed as far as what can be simulated in SimSig. I have the beginnings of a 2016 timetable - which I may finish at some point - and the sim as it stands can run it more or less ok. If SimSig were able to realistically reproduce the new Victoria Line system (which it cannot) then once again until things went wrong there wouldn't be a lot for anyone to be kept occupied by. And even when things go wrong it's all dealt with a little differently to how other NR areas are dealt with. Log in to reply |
london underground 02/04/2017 at 19:01 #94293 | |
Jezzabusdriver
75 posts |
metcontrol in post 94292 said:As far as the Jubilee and Northern are concerned, as much as their service frequency is high, there really isn't that much to keep you occupied until things go wrong. Even then the current system does a lot of the work for you. There are very few flat junctions to cause conflict, and most of their service simply shuttles backwards and forwards from one end to the other.I totally get what you mean :-), I would of done timetables with many short workings on it just for fun like Morden - Golders Green via Bank, Tooting Broadway - Finchley Central via Charing X that sort of thing :-) Log in to reply |