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| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 18:27 #120387 | |
GeoffM
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There has been criticism of the London Bridge simulation being just too big, even with ARS. We are therefore wondering if next year we could produce a cut down version of London Bridge that would also be cheaper than the full simulation. People with licenses for the full simulation would also get the lite version for free (but not vice versa!). Please give your thoughts to one of these ideas: 1. Charing Cross to Metropolitan Junction (inclusive) (panel 1); trains would enter/exit at London Bridge. Probably no ARS. 2. Charing Cross and Cannon Street to London Bridge (exclusive) (panels 1 and 2). 3. Charing Cross and Cannon Street to Spa Road (exclusive; slightly simplified between London Bridge and Spa Road) (Panels 1, 2, and part of 3). Probably optional ARS. Thanks. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bri2808 |
| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:03 #120388 | |
ajax103
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GeoffM in post 120387 said:There has been criticism of the London Bridge simulation being just too big, even with ARS. We are therefore wondering if next year we could produce a cut down version of London Bridge that would also be cheaper than the full simulation. People with licenses for the full simulation would also get the lite version for free (but not vice versa!). Please give your thoughts to one of these ideas:If I can I would like to submit my choices in number order for consideration: A. Charing Cross and Cannon Street to Spa Road (exclusive; slightly simplified between London Bridge and Spa Road) (Panels 1, 2, and part of 3). Probably optional ARS. B. Charing Cross to Metropolitan Junction (inclusive) (panel 1); trains would enter/exit at London Bridge. Probably no ARS. C. Charing Cross and Cannon Street to London Bridge (exclusive) (panels 1 and 2). Can I just add that if people have offered criticism of London Bridge being too big even with ARS then I'm sure they will find Three Bridges even more of a challenge! Maybe it's time to put a advisory on the sims depending on the level of skill needed from Easy to Medium to Hard with London Bridge falling under Hard, Royston falling under Easy and Peterborough/Rugby falling under Medium? Last edited: 13/09/2019 at 20:13 by GeoffM Reason: Edited by GM to avoid confusion with re-use of same numbers in a different order Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:14 #120389 | |
DaveHarries
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GeoffM in post 120387 said:There has been criticism of the London Bridge simulation being just too big, even with ARS. We are therefore wondering if next year we could produce a cut down version of London Bridge that would also be cheaper than the full simulation. People with licenses for the full simulation would also get the lite version for free (but not vice versa!). Please give your thoughts to one of these ideas: Option 3 would be my preference: it would be good for practice. However I like the larger sims so I am very much looking forward to the release, whenever that might be, of Three Bridges ASC. Dave Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Mikhail |
| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:52 #120391 | |
jc92
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I think option 3 would be my preference allowing control of the real meat and potatoes of all three stations without the approach tracks should be manageable and interesting.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:55 #120392 | |
bri2808
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I love this particular Sim, but option 3 for me as a choice.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:56 #120393 | |
dunbars123
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ajax103 in post 120388 said:GeoffM in post 120387 said:There has been criticism of the London Bridge simulation being just too big, even with ARS. We are therefore wondering if next year we could produce a cut down version of London Bridge that would also be cheaper than the full simulation. People with licenses for the full simulation would also get the lite version for free (but not vice versa!). Please give your thoughts to one of these ideas:If I can I would like to submit my choices in number order for consideration: Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 19:57 #120394 | |
Simdmuk
155 posts |
Echo jc92's comment,option 3 for me.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 21:16 #120395 | |
Steamer
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ajax103 in post 120388 said:Maybe it's time to put a advisory on the sims depending on the level of skill needed from Easy to Medium to Hard with London Bridge falling under Hard, Royston falling under Easy and Peterborough/Rugby falling under Medium?This categorisation already exists on this set of Wiki pages, which give summaries of each simulation: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:areainfo The ARS simulations are lumped into a fourth category of their own (except the very small ARS simulations like Leeds Ardsley, which are under Beginner), as the presence of ARS distorts the difficulty rating somewhat. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 13/09/2019 at 23:45 #120400 | |
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Late Turn
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Option 3 would be my preference. Big and interesting, but not *too* big! An excellent idea.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 00:42 #120408 | |
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Phil-jmw
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With the busier ARS-equipped sims my operating method is to just turn off ARS on one or maybe two panels and operate them myself while leaving the rest of the sim to run under ARS albeit keeping a weather eye on the other panels, but as an option to potentially take full control of a given area without having to keep a weather eye on the remaining areas this sounds like a good idea, and Option 3 would be my choice. Phil. Last edited: 14/09/2019 at 00:48 by Phil-jmw Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 05:17 #120410 | |
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Airvan00
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Instead of a cut down version, maybe a Sunday timetable might be more manageable.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 08:02 #120411 | |
BenWright
196 posts |
There has been a Sunday TT but even that with ARS is hard to manage
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 08:03 #120412 | |
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BenWright
196 posts |
That's a great idea. I think just having the 4 main terminals (CS, CX, LB HL and LL) would be good.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 11:30 #120413 | |
MJD
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Option 3 plz
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 17:43 #120421 | |
Giantray
347 posts |
Geoff, Option 3 would be manageable with a normal service and would keep peoples interest up. You could produce a London Bridge Central(panel 8 & 9) which would be a manageable sim for one player under normal service.
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| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 18:11 #120422 | |
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JamesN
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Giantray in post 120421 said:Geoff, Option 3 would be manageable with a normal service and would keep peoples interest up. You could produce a London Bridge Central(panel 8 & 9) which would be a manageable sim for one player under normal service.I also quite like the idea of an option “4” - central side only. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Sacro |
| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 19:57 #120425 | |
pedroathome
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JamesN in post 120422 said:Giantray in post 120421 said:To be clear, Positions 8 and 9?Geoff, Option 3 would be manageable with a normal service and would keep peoples interest up. You could produce a London Bridge Central(panel 8 & 9) which would be a manageable sim for one player under normal service.I also quite like the idea of an option “4” - central side only. Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 14/09/2019 at 22:45 #120426 | |
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JamesN
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pedroathome in post 120425 said:JamesN in post 120422 said:Yes, Panels 8 and 9Giantray in post 120421 said:To be clear, Positions 8 and 9?Geoff, Option 3 would be manageable with a normal service and would keep peoples interest up. You could produce a London Bridge Central(panel 8 & 9) which would be a manageable sim for one player under normal service.I also quite like the idea of an option “4” - central side only. Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 18/09/2019 at 05:55 #120462 | |
jem771
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Option 3 and possible Option 4 would be good. If easy to do may need to consider that for Three Bridges too due to its size and complexity I know people mention "just turn on ARS" and manually signal the bits you want but that doesn't work in a disruption scenario as ARS gets its knickers in a twist (as per real life) so makes it imposiible to manage I like what was done with the Staffordshire sim where you could "switch out" the derby lines, I don't know if thats possible to do that with positions on the bigger sims, probably not but would be a great feature. Jezz Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 18/09/2019 at 10:54 #120465 | |
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Table 52
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I like the sound of option 3. The other two seem a bit too small. On a side note, if I’m finding a sim to be tough, I put it down to half speed, which allows you time to do twice as much and is therefore like having a second signaller! For the mammoth sims, (London Bridge and by the sounds of it, Three Bridges), could a quarter speed be considered? Granted, it’ll take you a while to get through even just the morning peak, but would make these sims more accessible, even without ARS. Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 02/04/2020 at 12:15 #125299 | |
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Trainman525
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I would love to have panels 8 and 9 independently, and maybe panels 1,2,3 as well if panels 8 and 9 are too simple. Just one question, Would the current London Bridge ASC simulation still be able to be used after the lite version is released? Many thanks. Log in to reply |
| London Bridge "Lite" 03/04/2020 at 11:49 #125329 | |
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traindriver17
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Option 3 for me please although the full sim is very good a shortened version would be good as well
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| London Bridge "Lite" 03/04/2020 at 12:58 #125335 | |
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DaveHarries
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Whatever option is the final outcome I will hope that the full-size sim will continue to exist. Dave Log in to reply The following user said thank you: John 23 |
| London Bridge "Lite" 03/04/2020 at 13:29 #125337 | |
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Trainman525
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I hope so too!
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| London Bridge "Lite" 03/04/2020 at 14:27 #125338 | |
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John 23
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Option 3 for me!
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