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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 11/02/2023 at 01:45 #150437
Icey
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Hi all,

I’ve recently started making timetables based off info available on sites like realtimetrains.com

While this has proved to be a great help in inputting the services and time points, as well as providing the majority of the passenger service unit numbers that ran on the day, I’ve found that most of the freight services have very limited information regarding consists (locomotive type/numbers).
The timetable I’ve just finished inputting is for the West Yorkshire sim, so it’s quite freight intensive compared to the others I’ve done thus far.

Could someone point me in the direction of any resource(s) that provide such info?
Would be most grateful!

Thanks in advance

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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 11/02/2023 at 06:57 #150438
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That information doesn't tend to be publicly available. The railway has only recently opened up the access to unit numbers and some freight operators locomotive allocations.

Some TT writers work in the industry and are able to replicate exact or typical formations.

Other typical workings outside of that could be gained from observation or looking online for photos and educated guesswork.

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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 11/02/2023 at 12:59 #150440
zacpartridge
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You may want to see this thread as this was discussed before.

https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/54438

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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 19/02/2023 at 14:19 #150551
Icey
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Thank you both, wellgroomed and zacpartridge, for your replies and help!
Will get my inner investigator going and see what the internet can reveal

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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 19/02/2023 at 21:27 #150570
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If there are any specific services you're stuck with, you could post them on here and we might be able to help as well.
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 20/02/2023 at 11:09 #150574
officer dibble
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Icey,

Here are a few consists/lengths for you (these are from September 2021 but are a useful guide);

6M25 03:32 Doncaster Down Decoy GB Railfreight - Arcow Quarry GBRF (GBRf Cl.66/7 & 21 empty HYA/IIA) = 412m
6E66 21:25 Oxwellmains Lafarge Colas Rail - Hunslet Yard Colas Rail (Colas Cl.70/8 & 20 loaded JPA) = 345m
4E91 02:15 Southampton Marine Container Terminal - Leeds Freightliner Terminal (FL Cl.66/5 & 25 Freightliner flats) = 528m
4E23 05:50 Felixstowe North Freightliner Terminal - Leeds Freightliner Terminal (FL Cl.66/9+Cl.66/5 & 21 Freightliner flats) = 521m
0E03 13:54 Earles Sidings (Hope) Freightliner Heavy Haul - Leeds Balm Road Loco Freightliner Heavy Haul (FL Cl.66/6x2) = 42m
4E24 10:57 London Gateway Port Line 2 - Leeds Freightliner Terminal (Cl.66/5 & 22 Freightliner flats) = 587m
6D40 16:50 Scunthorpe Anchor GB Railfreight - Hunslet Tilcon GBRF (GBRf Cl.66/7 & 27 loaded HYA) = 425m
4E59 18:30 Felixstowe North Freightliner Terminal - Leeds Freightliner Terminal (FL Cl.66/4 & 24 Freghtliner flats) = 546m

HTH

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Last edited: 20/02/2023 at 11:09 by officer dibble
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Freight Train consist info/Loco numbers 20/02/2023 at 11:32 #150575
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officer dibble in post 150574 said:
Icey,

4E91 (FL Cl.66/5 & 25 Freightliner flats) = 528m
4E23 (FL Cl.66/9+Cl.66/5 & 21 Freightliner flats) = 521m
4E24 (Cl.66/5 & 22 Freightliner flats) = 587m
4E59 (FL Cl.66/4 & 24 Freightliner flats) = 546m
As you can see from the good Officers list above, Freightliners are a complete pain in the derriere. Due to various flat wagon types with differing lengths you can have a train of 22 Flats being longer than a train with 24 flats.

Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!!
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