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| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 01:30 #104464 | |
jimzim
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In the manual for Plymouth, the following is written for Royal Albert Bridge: "At Royal Albert Bridge single line approach signal P64 to P66 will call the Warner route if point 268 is normal" Can someone explain what the Warner route is? I can't see any difference no matter how I set my route approaching and over the bridge. Merry Christmas! Log in to reply |
| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 01:57 #104466 | |
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jimzim
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Also, I do know what the Warner route is (having no overlap) but still can't see the difference in this sim, unless I'm missing something obvious.
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| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 02:15 #104467 | |
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MarkC
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jimzim in post 104466 said:Also, I do know what the Warner route is (having no overlap) but still can't see the difference in this sim, unless I'm missing something obvious.The Warner Route when set The route set highlight will only go as far as the signal it is approaching (See Warner-Route.png), where as the normal route setting sets the over lap to just over the points approching the single line (See Normal-Route.png)   Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 04:27 #104468 | |
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Chromatix
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To be more precise, warner routes are used when there is reduced overlap.
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| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 18:31 #104484 | |
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Albert
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It looks like no overlap in this case because there is no separate track circuit between the signal and the end of the reduced overlap. There are a few other places on other sims where such a track circuit does exist.
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| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 18:56 #104487 | |
VInce
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Just to add that if a route with reduced overlap is set, the protecting signal acts as "approach controlled" and is delayed in clearing to a proceed aspect so as the train is virtually at a stand before it clears. Interestingly, I'd never heard of the phrase "Warner Route" until I joined this group. I was well aware of reduced and swinging overlaps but "Warner" was a new one on me.... Vince I walk around inside the questions of my day, I navigate the inner reaches of my disarray, I pass the altars where fools and thieves hold sway, I wait for night to come and lift this dread away : Jackson Browne - The Night Inside Me Last edited: 25/12/2017 at 19:00 by VInce Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 18:57 #104488 | |
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Jan
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Albert in post 104484 said:It looks like no overlap in this case because there is no separate track circuit between the signal and the end of the reduced overlap. You can still have an overlap even without having a separate track circuit for it (and while not applicable specifically in the above situation, indeed that's the standard arrangement for automatic signals). Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply |
| Warner Route 25/12/2017 at 21:33 #104495 | |
jc92
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VInce in post 104487 said:Just to add that if a route with reduced overlap is set, the protecting signal acts as "approach controlled" and is delayed in clearing to a proceed aspect so as the train is virtually at a stand before it clears.Comes from semaphore signalling. If authorised, a train can be accepted under the warning arrangement (old reg 5 acceptance) when the block section is clear but the clearing point is fouled. The train would be brought to a stand at the preceeding section signal before it was cleared and a flag displayed to confirm this all to the driver. Some locations had a "warning" signal which looks identical to a calling on arm to convey this message. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: VInce |
| Warner Route 26/12/2017 at 00:35 #104508 | |
Peter Bennet
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VInce in post 104487 said:Just to add that if a route with reduced overlap is set, the protecting signal acts as "approach controlled" and is delayed in clearing to a proceed aspect so as the train is virtually at a stand before it clears.Often panels and plans refer to D/Y (being Delayed Yellow). Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: VInce |