Carlisle Issues

The omission of the double yellows for that route (and a few others I can't recall right now) was based on this being pointed out to me by one of the signalers at Carlisle.

I'm not entirely convinced approach control from red is required here due to the relatively low linespeeds involved here.

Do you mean should as in you are used to diverging routes doing this, or should as in you know the interlocking to actually behave this way from either observation or control tables?

Confirmation from YouTube that CE303 can show YY towards Petteril Bridge: https://youtu.be/Fw1igpjVznA?t=2m27s

Whilst running the Carlisle 79-80 Fri TT I lost a loco OM07 from S1 which was needed to join a train at platform 4 around 8.00 am. Not sure how this loco disappeared but my question is : Can I create a new loco leaving Wapping Sidings by editing the TT of the original loco OM07 ? I have tried to do this with no success many times and the duplicate never ever appears. I added new location lines on the TT with new times and verified it. Can anyone give me a some clues here ?

Ray in post 111774 said:

Whilst running the Carlisle 79-80 Fri TT I lost a loco OM07 from S1 which was needed to join a train at platform 4 around 8.00 am. Not sure how this loco disappeared but my question is : Can I create a new loco leaving Wapping Sidings by editing the TT of the original loco OM07 ? I have tried to do this with no success many times and the duplicate never ever appears. I added new location lines on the TT with new times and verified it. Can anyone give me a some clues here ?

When you edited the TT, did you then click on the Mark (un)entered button to reset the status of 0M07 to unentered? If you don't the sim has already marked off 0M07 so it won't enter.

No - didn't think to click this button as I assumed I was creating a new loco and the original loco was past history. But I will remember to do that the next time and see if I have any success.

Really odd one - I let 6M51 out onto the up main at Upperby, but for reasons I can’t fathom it stuck at 15mph. I tried to meddle with the TT which remedied until the train passed the next signal, when it went back to 15mph.

What’s odder is this was intermittent - on a reload I let the train out and it operated normally. Not necessarily expecting it to be investigated, but noting here in case others see similar strange behaviour.

I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now, but I keep forgetting. I'm sure that it must have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but I can't find it in a search, and it's probably buried in another thread that I'll never find.

When setting a route from platforms 2 or 3 at Carlisle for class 1 passenger trains, despite there being no other trains clearing the overlaps in advance, or any trains in sections ahead for several signals, signals CE302 and CE323 sometimes give the shunt aspect to the driver, and not the main aspect as expected. I've only noticed it with those two signals. I should point out that I'm clearing the signals "in order" (from 323 to 431, then from 431 to 434 etc.)

As I can't find where this might have been discussed before, can someone tell me why this happens?

lazzer in post 111814 said:

I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now, but I keep forgetting. I'm sure that it must have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but I can't find it in a search, and it's probably buried in another thread that I'll never find.

When setting a route from platforms 2 or 3 at Carlisle for class 1 passenger trains, despite there being no other trains clearing the overlaps in advance, or any trains in sections ahead for several signals, signals CE302 and CE323 sometimes give the shunt aspect to the driver, and not the main aspect as expected. I've only noticed it with those two signals. I should point out that I'm clearing the signals "in order" (from 323 to 431, then from 431 to 434 etc.)

As I can't find where this might have been discussed before, can someone tell me why this happens?

Sounds like you clicking on the White Triangle which are for shunting movements. In which then displays on your signals. Make sure your clicking on the actual signal rather than the white triangle. See image.

Applying a reminder will also show the full extent of the click area for the arrow.

Well I had thought about that, but I was sure that the last time it did it, I clicked right in the middle of the exit signal, and nowhere near the triangle. Maybe the triangle has a large area of "capture" and it's easy to accidentally click on it ...

I've come across another instance of trains not phoning in.

In the 1980 timetable, train 1M05 has failed to call in from signal CE501 (protecting Floriston LX on the up) after the two minutes.

GW43125 in post 111803 said:

I've come across another instance of trains not phoning in.

In the 1980 timetable, train 1M05 has failed to call in from signal CE501 (protecting Floriston LX on the up) after the two minutes.

Update: 1E49 and 1M25 have also failed to call in.

lazzer in post 111817 said:

Well I had thought about that, but I was sure that the last time it did it, I clicked right in the middle of the exit signal, and nowhere near the triangle. Maybe the triangle has a large area of "capture" and it's easy to accidentally click on it ...

I thought I'd hit the main signal when I'd actually hit the white triangle so many times while I was testing that I asked Tom whether there was any test he could add that would require the driver of a service train to ring and complain if he was signalled forward on the dolly.

I now can't set a route from CE407 to CE402 with 5C33 on 2000 era, groundhog TT (ref https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/34499?postId=39945). This is when 5C33 is calling stationary from 407.

Hi,

Rattling through still - I think I've seen a very minor description error.

5T01L reports as being 08+3 car flats and 26m long - this train is destined to be attached to 2P59 in P2.

I wonder if the description is mixed up with the other 5T01 (5T01K1) which also originates from siding A - in the sim this has the description of 2BG/GUV, and is 35m long. Surely the vans are for 2P59, and the flats for something else. This would match the lengths if this is correct, so it's just the description, which is obviously very minor.