Stockport FAQ

A few missing Banner Repeaters - though I accept this may be down to what is represented on the signallers panel in real life. Platform 0 has one, and there is one at Edgeley 2 for moves off the Chester line - double headed and applicable to ST1-106 and 104.

I'm pretty sure ST2-73 (P2, down) should be a Limit of Shunt - we can only use 1 and 3A for getting into the sidings from the north (or shunt via Edgeley).

Splodge in post 113978 said:

I'm pretty sure ST2-73 (P2, down) should be a Limit of Shunt - we can only use 1 and 3A for getting into the sidings from the north (or shunt via Edgeley).

It's definitely an LOS- Splash06 confirms.

I had 6H35 from Northenden. It requested then I granted the slot and the train entered OK. However, for the next train 1H98 does not request the slot, but calling me by phone to give them. When I click the right roundel, it flashes up for about half a second then nothing happens. Save attached.

I've been unable to reproduce the issue, however, I suspect that a route is set form NJ18 signal.

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I've been unable to reproduce the issue, however, I suspect that a route is set form NJ18 signal.

It looks like the route from NJ18 does not release itself after a train have passed it. I have turned off TORR, there may be something with it.

There's no tt location for reddish South station

A few clearing point related queries:

1) For the locations where no clearing point is listed in the manual, is it safe to assume that the overlap at the home signal represents the clearing point?
2) What is the local view on swinging facing points within a clearing point after a train is accepted? For example, the sim lets me swing HN 41 and 46 points on with a train accepted on the Down Slow, but that doesn't mean I should! From what I've heard the Midland Region view on this was that it's acceptable, but it may be a view changed with place and time...
3) Does the sim apply any penalty if the player fouls the clearing point? For example, Heaton Norris, while the Down Fast-Up Fast crossover is locked normal with a train accepted on the DF, I can set the trailing Down Slow-Down Fast crossover reverse, and I don't seem to accrue any angry messages or penalty points.

A few clearing point related queries:

1) For the locations where no clearing point is listed in the manual, is it safe to assume that the overlap at the home signal represents the clearing point?
2) What is the local view on swinging facing points within a clearing point after a train is accepted? For example, the sim lets me swing HN 41 and 46 points on with a train accepted on the Down Slow, but that doesn't mean I should! From what I've heard the Midland Region view on this was that it's acceptable, but it may be a view changed with place and time...
3) Does the sim apply any penalty if the player fouls the clearing point? For example, Heaton Norris, while the Down Fast-Up Fast crossover is locked normal with a train accepted on the DF, I can set the trailing Down Slow-Down Fast crossover reverse, and I don't seem to accrue any angry messages or penalty points.

Danny252 in post 114006 said:

3) Does the sim apply any penalty if the player fouls the clearing point? For example, Heaton Norris, while the Down Fast-Up Fast crossover is locked normal with a train accepted on the DF, I can set the trailing Down Slow-Down Fast crossover reverse, and I don't seem to accrue any angry messages or penalty points.

3) Per most other AB simulations no, clearing points are not enforced through points.

I know you have a western background of "once its locked its locked" but most areas have it as "while safe to do so" which normally equates to not having received train entering section.

headshot119 in post 114007 said:

Danny252 in post 114006 said:

3) Does the sim apply any penalty if the player fouls the clearing point? For example, Heaton Norris, while the Down Fast-Up Fast crossover is locked normal with a train accepted on the DF, I can set the trailing Down Slow-Down Fast crossover reverse, and I don't seem to accrue any angry messages or penalty points.

3) Per most other AB simulations no, clearing points are not enforced through points.

Are the points that do become locked with the block at LC/TOL (Stockport No. 2 and Heaton Norris both have them on the down) locked by the block in real life?

jc92 in post 114010 said:

I know you have a western background of "once its locked its locked" but most areas have it as "while safe to do so" which normally equates to not having received train entering section.

Yes, my background is clear! I was also partly wondering if NR still took the same view; the NR rules on mechanical signalboxes and AB are quite different to those of 50 years ago.

Not a bug, more a request. Can a list of clearing points be added to the manual. In some cases I am able to give OOS but not accept another train, mainly around EY1 and 2. This seems strange as OOS shouldn't be given until the clearing point is clear to accept another train

Random Question - but in the course of the research for the sim, did you find out why Stockport 2's down platform/main/goods signals were given letters rather than numbers? It's a question even our managers, some of whom have been on the railways for decades, don't know, and it looks like it has been the case for some time looking at older photos of the boxes (and with a missing 'ST2-D' can assume it has been like that despite the platform 4 bay being removed a long time ago).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/34252860161/in/album-72157680490302311/

Danny252 in post 114006 said:

A few clearing point related queries:

1) For the locations where no clearing point is listed in the manual, is it safe to assume that the overlap at the home signal represents the clearing point?
2) What is the local view on swinging facing points within a clearing point after a train is accepted? For example, the sim lets me swing HN 41 and 46 points on with a train accepted on the Down Slow, but that doesn't mean I should! From what I've heard the Midland Region view on this was that it's acceptable, but it may be a view changed with place and time...
3) Does the sim apply any penalty if the player fouls the clearing point? For example, Heaton Norris, while the Down Fast-Up Fast crossover is locked normal with a train accepted on the DF, I can set the trailing Down Slow-Down Fast crossover reverse, and I don't seem to accrue any angry messages or penalty points.

I know you have a western background of "once its locked its locked" but most areas have it as "while safe to do so" which normally equates to not having received train entering section.

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