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| Up/Down Markers 16/09/2010 at 19:34 #1779 | |
Danny252
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Clive, I was wondering if it would be possible to add a few Up/Down labels? Possibly just below Watford Sidings, at Stonebridge Park, and maybe towards Camden Jn? Currently the only clue is the Up/Down Fast at Watford Jn, and needless to say a few trains at Stonebridge Pk have ended up on the wrong track! Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 16/09/2010 at 19:34 #11534 | |
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Danny252
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Clive, I was wondering if it would be possible to add a few Up/Down labels? Possibly just below Watford Sidings, at Stonebridge Park, and maybe towards Camden Jn? Currently the only clue is the Up/Down Fast at Watford Jn, and needless to say a few trains at Stonebridge Pk have ended up on the wrong track! Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 16/09/2010 at 19:45 #11535 | |
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Albert
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Up is always the upper of both tracks in Wembley sim.
AJP in games Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 16/09/2010 at 23:00 #11538 | |
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Danny252
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Aye, but you could go with "Up is always to the right on KX", and yet that has labels! 
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| Up/Down Markers 17/09/2010 at 18:23 #11552 | |
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UKTrainMan
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I also support the idea of having up/down labels as it would be very helpful to me during gameplay. Then again, there is nothing stopping players manually adding a form of labels by using stickies with a black background and one of the two grey font colours. Of-course if Clive would add these labels along with fixing (assuming it can be fixed) the bug with the LU headcodes in Stickies then that'd be great, really appreciated, etc.
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| Up/Down Markers 17/09/2010 at 19:19 #11556 | |
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Danny252
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I was also wondering about the track circuits at the end of the "Stripes". These do not overlap between stripes - so if looking at Stripe 2, you don't notice a train approaching from Stripe 3 or Stripe 1 until it's already there. Isn't there a design note saying this should never happen, and that a TC should be visible on both Stripes/pages?
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| Up/Down Markers 17/09/2010 at 22:58 #11564 | |
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ozzyd9001
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unless i am mistaken but layouts that are close to london its always up to london and down from london hope this helps yours paul Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 18/09/2010 at 18:40 #11588 | |
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clive
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Nobody's complained about the lack of Up and Down markers before, but I'll add them to the next version. Danny: I'll discuss things with Geoff. I carefully set the break points so that they're over automatic sections. Ozzy: while it's normal to be Up towards London, it wasn't always that way: the Great Central was Up to Manchester and therefore Down to London; you can still see this in some of the milepost numberings. Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 18/09/2010 at 23:21 #11598 | |
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Danny252
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clive said:Ozzy: while it's normal to be Up towards London, it wasn't always that way: the Great Central was Up to Manchester and therefore Down to London; you can still see this in some of the milepost numberings.And the Midland Railway towards Derby, no? Although I believe the LMS/Midland Region changed this. Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 18/09/2010 at 23:40 #11599 | |
Meld
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Midland still Up to Derby MP 0 at southern end of station in 81-82 WTTS at least
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| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 00:35 #11602 | |
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Danny252
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NR's April 2009 Sectional Appendix shows St Pancras as MP 0, so possibly late Midland Region or NR's doing.
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| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 01:12 #11604 | |
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Meld
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Sorry Danny didnt make it that clear Yes its up to St Pancras, [0] and down to Carlisle as well as being Down to Bath/Bristol and Up back to Derby London Rd Jcn [0] where the line meets up with the main MR network. The GC Up to Manchester was inherited from the MSL&R being up to Manchester as thats where company HQ was. cant remember which way was up on the old LD&EC from Chesterfield though Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 07:01 #11606 | |
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Haraubrad
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Hi There, I can't say how it was between Sheffield and Manchester, but the Great Central from Sheffield to Marylebone was up to London, down to Sheffield. I was a Passed Fireman at Woodford Halse until closure of the depot. Aubrey Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 09:42 #11609 | |
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Late Turn
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The GC's London Extension certainly was Up towards Manchester initially. The directions were reversed at some point, but the mileages continue to be measured from 0mp at Manchester, increasing in the Up direction of travel - certainly an unusual, if not unique, situation.
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| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 09:57 #11610 | |
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Zoe
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Late Turn said:The GC's London Extension certainly was Up towards Manchester initially. The directions were reversed at some point, but the mileages continue to be measured from 0mp at Manchester, increasing in the Up direction of travel - certainly an unusual, if not unique, situation. Does the heritage line use an Engineer's Line Reference? Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 11:08 #11614 | |
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Late Turn
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The ELR for the old route (MCJ) is quoted in Quail (the same ELR as is used between L'boro and Ruddington, and south of Claydon LNE, obviously all on the same mileage run). It has no practical application on the GCR though, as we only have one line of route!)
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| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 12:47 #11617 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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Up & Down do not necessarily point towards London. For Railway employees up is the direction as defined in Table A of the Sectional Appendix.
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| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 12:48 #11618 | |
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Meld
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Late Turn said:The GC's London Extension certainly was Up towards Manchester initially. The directions were reversed at some point, but the mileages continue to be measured from 0mp at Manchester, increasing in the Up direction of travel - certainly an unusual, if not unique, situation.All the overheads for the woodhead line were numbered mileage over gantry number and these certainly increased the further away from Manchester you got. The most likely place that the changeover would take place has to be Woodhouse Jcn where the GC branched off the old MSLR to Cleethorpes Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply |
| Up/Down Markers 19/09/2010 at 13:36 #11620 | |
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Late Turn
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Sorry, I meant a change in the line's directions at some point in time, rather than at a point in mileage! Increasing mileage in the Up direction is fairly unusual, but that was what remained after Up became towards London.
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