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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 22/03/2019 at 23:58 #116572 | |
thegamer7893
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Hello, I am looking for a timetablers for a timetable which I have started (well added all the trains which are required for it). If anyone wants to do the timetabling for this timetable please PM/DM me.
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 24/03/2019 at 14:10 #116614 | |
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thegamer7893
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UPDATE: Timetable no longer been worked on
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| Victoria South Eastern Timetable 30/03/2019 at 12:47 #116982 | |
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thegamer7893
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Does anyone know where you can find working timetables for trains under the control of Victoria ASC (Victoria South Eastern panel)?
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 13:15 #116984 | |
postal
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baitboy2004 in post 116982 said:Does anyone know where you can find working timetables for trains under the control of Victoria ASC (Victoria South Eastern panel)?All WTTs for services running on Network Rail can be downloaded from their web-site at https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/timetabling/working-timetable/. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 30/03/2019 at 13:15 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern Timetable 30/03/2019 at 16:32 #116988 | |
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thegamer7893
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So, now that I've got em, exactly how do I abstract data from the WTT to the Simsig Timetable
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 16:40 #116990 | |
Steamer
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baitboy2004 in post 116988 said:So, now that I've got em, exactly how do I abstract data from the WTT to the Simsig TimetableA lot of copying. Make sure you've read the timetabling section of the Wiki before you start. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 16:58 #116993 | |
jc92
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Steamer in post 116990 said:baitboy2004 in post 116988 said:Is there not a way nowadays to download a. Csv file and import it?So, now that I've got em, exactly how do I abstract data from the WTT to the Simsig TimetableA lot of copying. Make sure you've read the timetabling section of the Wiki before you start. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 17:03 #116994 | |
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thegamer7893
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Link?
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 19:06 #116995 | |
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postal
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jc92 in post 116993 said:Is there not a way nowadays to download a. Csv file and import it?Still leaves the problem of getting the data into .csv format in the first place. The WTTs are in .pdf format so that could be problematic, depending on the way the .pdf has been constructed. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 30/03/2019 at 19:58 #116997 | |
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Steamer
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postal in post 116995 said:jc92 in post 116993 said:I think some of the online timetable sites (RTT definitely, possibly others) allow you to request XML schedule data, which could be loaded into SimSig- although you still have to know which schedules to request and re-format them into the structure SimSig expects.Is there not a way nowadays to download a. Csv file and import it?Still leaves the problem of getting the data into .csv format in the first place. The WTTs are in .pdf format so that could be problematic, depending on the way the .pdf has been constructed. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| Victoria South Eastern Timetable 30/03/2019 at 20:58 #117000 | |
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thegamer7893
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Looks like I'm going to doing things the long way then. But again, I may just stop any development of this timetable. ;) Edit: 31/03/2019: I have imputed some workings from Victoria, however they all seam to leave late. Why is this? (5D55 is due to leave at 00:18) and also when they do leave several minutes late they appear on the panel as [xXxx] 
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 16:26 #117036 | |
GeoffM
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baitboy2004 in post 117000 said:Looks like I'm going to doing things the long way then. But again, I may just stop any development of this timetable.That's impossible to answer without seeing some data, ie the timetable. SimSig Boss Last edited: 31/03/2019 at 16:43 by GeoffM Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 16:41 #117039 | |
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Steamer
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baitboy2004 in post 117000 said:Quote: Reason: Edited original comment and added an update and a question regarding a bug with picture proofFirstly, editing your original post isn't likely to get you a response. Everyone can see when a new post is made- we can't see that you've edited a previous post unless someone explicitly goes back and checks the thread. I only checked the thread because I saw Geoff had made a post, and noticed that you'd edited your post after he posted. Secondly, Geoff asked for a copy of the timetable- it's impossible to tell what the train's doing from a picture. Alternatively, a saved game would probably give us the information we need to help. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 17:43 #117046 | |
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jc92
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In answer to the second part, if the train description is only interposed at the buffers not at the country end, it won't step up when the train departs from Victoria. Can you confirm if that's the case?
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 21:00 #117064 | |
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thegamer7893
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jc92 in post 117046 said:In answer to the second part, if the train description is only interposed at the buffers not at the country end, it won't step up when the train departs from Victoria. Can you confirm if that's the case?Yes, this is the case In response to Geoff, below is an image of the current WIP timetable (services heading out of Victoria only currently) 
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 21:23 #117066 | |
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JamesN
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Yeah, a picture still isn’t going to help. Savegame would be much more useful.
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 21:28 #117067 | |
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Steamer
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baitboy2004 in post 117064 said:jc92 in post 117046 said:By timetable, a copy of the actual timetable file is required. That way we can run it ourselves and work out what's going on. We can't debug from a photo.In answer to the second part, if the train description is only interposed at the buffers not at the country end, it won't step up when the train departs from Victoria. Can you confirm if that's the case?Yes, this is the case "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 21:39 #117070 | |
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thegamer7893
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Savegame: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eAj1m_yxYFzax9mN3MXk-7PMpX0ZIEYK
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 21:49 #117071 | |
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Steamer
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It looks like you've started the simulation in 'Normal' mode, hence you're getting random late running. Timetables should always be tested in 'Easy' mode, with all delays/failures turned off.
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 22:06 #117072 | |
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thegamer7893
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Okay. I understand now. Now, since thats cleared up, why do trains appear on the panel as [xXxx]? (Although I think someone responded to me to say that "if the train description is only interposed at the buffers not at the country end, it won't step up when the train departs"
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 22:10 #117073 | |
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Steamer
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baitboy2004 in post 117072 said:Okay. I understand now. Now, since thats cleared up, why do trains appear on the panel as [xXxx]? (Although I think someone responded to me to say that "if the train description is only interposed at the buffers not at the country end, it won't step up when the train departs" You've just quoted the answer to your question. I think Description stepping is also mentioned in the simulation manual. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 31/03/2019 at 22:40 #117082 | |
Edgemaster
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To have the headcodes interpose at the country end on seeding, seed at the signal number for the platform you want, instead of the platform seed location. Alternatively, you can seed at the platform location but then immediately give it a next service association at Victoria, which will cause ACI to step up to the next outbound service. Full details on how the TD stepping works at Victoria station are given in the manual: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:victoriasoutheast:TD Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern Timetable 01/04/2019 at 16:56 #117100 | |
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thegamer7893
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Oh, I get it now, cheers. Plus also, on RTT, how do you get previous workings for trains and also how do you get trains towards a destination (for example the next station) to appear if imputed into the timetable
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| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 01/04/2019 at 17:35 #117102 | |
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postal
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baitboy2004 in post 117100 said:Oh, I get it now, cheers. Plus also, on RTT, how do you get previous workings for trains and also how do you get trains towards a destination (for example the next station) to appear if imputed into the timetableSometimes RTT shows the previous working ( as in " formed from 1A00" ) or shows shows the next working at the terminating location ( "Forms 1A00" ) but not usually. You will need to find someone with access to the unit diagrams to get definitive answers. Some of the time you can work it out from the platform details given in RTT e.g. if 1A00 goes into P5, there are no other trains in P5 and 1B00 then departs you may want to assume that 1A00 forms 1B00. However this is not guaranteed as some ECS workings don't show in RTT so you don't know if 5A00 goes off for servicing then 5B00 rolls in to form 1B00. Not quite as easy as it looks at first glance, is it? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 01/04/2019 at 17:36 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Victoria South Eastern 2016 Timetable 01/04/2019 at 20:15 #117113 | |
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thegamer7893
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postal in post 117102 said:baitboy2004 in post 117100 said:Yeah.... 'annoyed face'Oh, I get it now, cheers. Plus also, on RTT, how do you get previous workings for trains and also how do you get trains towards a destination (for example the next station) to appear if imputed into the timetableSometimes RTT shows the previous working ( as in " formed from 1A00" ) or shows shows the next working at the terminating location ( "Forms 1A00" ) but not usually. You will need to find someone with access to the unit diagrams to get definitive answers. Some of the time you can work it out from the platform details given in RTT e.g. if 1A00 goes into P5, there are no other trains in P5 and 1B00 then departs you may want to assume that 1A00 forms 1B00. However this is not guaranteed as some ECS workings don't show in RTT so you don't know if 5A00 goes off for servicing then 5B00 rolls in to form 1B00. Log in to reply |