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Possible missing route: Willesden TMD Sig 1180 to Kilburn Up & Down Goods

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Possible missing route: Willesden TMD Sig 1180 to Kilburn Up & Down Goods 15/02/2020 at 10:03 #123311
WesternChampion
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I've been playing around with a timetable based on the current timetable for Wembley Mainline. There is an ECS move from Willesden TMD to Euston, which is scheduled to wait in the Up & Down Goods Loop at Kilburn (panel and NR timetables say Kilburn, SimSig timetables say Kilburn Road). I can't get a route to validate from Sig 1180 into the Goods Loop, although there is a route direct to Camden Jn. I've tried Willesden West London Jn (per NR timetable) and Queen's Park AC Lines as intermediate locations but to no avail.

Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?

Chris

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Possible missing route: Willesden TMD Sig 1180 to Kilburn Up & Down Goods 15/02/2020 at 12:59 #123313
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I agree that there appear to be no valid path from Wilsden TMD 1180 to Kilburn U&D Goods Loop. Have raised this as 29323

I have also checked with the sectional appendix, and photos of the panel and agree that there is no road in the loaction name. 29324 to suggest the removal of road from Kilburn Road U&D Goods

Last edited: 15/02/2020 at 18:32 by y10g9
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Possible missing route: Willesden TMD Sig 1180 to Kilburn Up & Down Goods 16/02/2020 at 18:36 #123321
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WM1180 signal can only be signalled towards WM724 which is the south end of the 'TMD Loop' not 'Kilburn Up and Down Good Loop'.
From WM724 you have 2 routes to WM326 on the Up Slow and the other route is into the TMD neck (the small grey arrow pointing to the GREEN of Kensal Green Tunnels).

I've checked the Sim. The issue I believe is that that little arrow pointing toward Kensal Green tunnel is the neck of the TMD Loop, it doesn't lead to Kilburn Loop via a tunnel or an un-shown line. You have to signal the train onto the Up Slow and then back into Kilburn Loop

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Possible missing route: Willesden TMD Sig 1180 to Kilburn Up & Down Goods 16/02/2020 at 19:50 #123323
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There is no disagreement that a route cannot be set out for Willesden TMD 1180 to 724 to 326 to 324 to 722 at Kilburn Up&Dn Goods loop. The issue that has been raised is that there is no valid path between the locations, implemented in SimSig, to allow a timetable such as 5D99 to be created in the sim
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