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2B14 and permissive working at Waverley 29/07/2020 at 22:29 #130145 | |
TUT
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headshot119 in post 130112 said:bugsy in post 130109 said:Although to be fair, one of the reasons is emergency permissive working, though that's not quite the same as "If you have failed to operate the required override switch"jc92 in post 130106 said:You'd be having a tea and no biscuits meeting if you started talking passed signals without good reason. And there are only 15 goods reasons.You need to operate the track circuit overide switch (the red button at the buffer stops) in order to release the permissive route. Its a form of confirmation.Right. Thanks for your swift response. ![]() ![]() Log in to reply |
2B14 and permissive working at Waverley 29/07/2020 at 22:44 #130146 | |
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ajax103 in post 130126 said:What would the reasons be as I can't think of 15, one or two maybe but not 15!Quote: 1.1 Signaller's authorityNote 3 is to be distinguished from 1 (and 2) in that 1 specifically refers to a signal being defective or disconnected (and 2 covers the ERTMS equivalent) whereas 3 catches other situations like track circuit failure, failure of barriers of a CCTV level crossing in the raised position only if road-traffic signals working etc. Quote: 4 For shunting purposes, a main aspect or stop signal is to be passed at danger when there is no associated position-light or semaphore shunting signal, or an EoA passed when it is not possible to issue an MA.10 refers to a "13.2 line blockage", which is one taken by track workers (COSS/IWA/PC/SWL) and is often planned in advance. If work affecting the safety of the line is to take place within 200 metres of the protecting signal, the previous signal must be maintained at danger as well. Item 10 allows the previous signal (referred to as a MAD (Maintained At Danger) signal) to be passed only for the reasons listed provided you have agreed this with the COSS/IWA/... beforehand. Quote: 11 The line is to be examined to check that it is clear.13 need not be applied on Track Circuit Block lines, but you must make sure that the line is clear before signalling the next train over the affected portion of line. Quote: 14 A train is to enter the section to:Headshot quoted 15 reasons because ERTMS is the devil's work and does not count. Last edited: 29/07/2020 at 22:56 by TUT Reason: None given Log in to reply |
2B14 and permissive working at Waverley 30/07/2020 at 05:12 #130158 | |
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Hap in post 130141 said:bugsy in post 130136 said:I didn't catch that. Yes, if the train passes the signal at danger then the train in section proving and thus route release won't apply.Do these comments also apply to the situation with 2B14 (mentioned in my original post above with a save attached) where I had to clear the route from signal E486 into platform 17 as it didn’t release automatically?That'll be because you talked him passed the signal. Whether it's right behaviour or not for this situation I don't know. But it doesn't happen if the route was cleared. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
2B14 and permissive working at Waverley 30/07/2020 at 05:20 #130159 | |
GeoffM
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TUT in post 130146 said:Headshot quoted 15 reasons because ERTMS is the devil's work and does not count.Strange as I thought he was its number #1 fan in the UK ![]() Must admit, I do like lamps on sticks and staring at a block marker at the end of a platform really is not quite the same as seeing a green and thinking an interesting train may be coming. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following users said thank you: VInce, TUT |