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Moses Gate ARS issue 27/08/2020 at 17:55 #131057
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377 posts 		There doesn't appear to be any facility for routing trains into Moses Gate's loops in ARS-equipped v2.0 of Piccadilly. Any trains booked to stop in the loops simply do so on the main lines.
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Moses Gate ARS issue 27/08/2020 at 21:51 #131063
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3985 posts 		Looks like a bug- Mantis 31434
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Last edited: 27/08/2020 at 21:52 by Steamer
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Moses Gate ARS issue 27/08/2020 at 22:12 #131065
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6376 posts 		Salford Crescent
Burnden Jn DPL
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should do it. Moses Gate Loop is not a key location and, as far as the sim is concerned, is the same place anyway. So you could insert Moses Gate Loops between Salford and Burnden if you wanted.

[NB not actually tested this, only looked at the data, because I'm in the middle of making changes on the Sale line and it won't currently compile).
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Moses Gate ARS issue 27/08/2020 at 23:39 #131069
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377 posts 		GeoffM in post 131065 said:
Salford Crescent
Burnden Jn DPL
Bolton

should do it. Moses Gate Loop is not a key location and, as far as the sim is concerned, is the same place anyway. So you could insert Moses Gate Loops between Salford and Burnden if you wanted.

[NB not actually tested this, only looked at the data, because I'm in the middle of making changes on the Sale line and it won't currently compile).
Good call Geoff. Tested and working exactly as you suggested. Many thanks for that. Good luck with the MSJ&A branch!
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Moses Gate ARS issue 28/08/2020 at 16:23 #131086
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3985 posts 		whatlep in post 131069 said:
GeoffM in post 131065 said:
Salford Crescent
Burnden Jn DPL
Bolton

should do it. Moses Gate Loop is not a key location and, as far as the sim is concerned, is the same place anyway. So you could insert Moses Gate Loops between Salford and Burnden if you wanted.

[NB not actually tested this, only looked at the data, because I'm in the middle of making changes on the Sale line and it won't currently compile).
Good call Geoff. Tested and working exactly as you suggested. Many thanks for that. Good luck with the MSJ&A branch!
What locations did you use?

I've just tested Salford Crescent-> Burnden Jn (Line DPL)-> Bolton (Plat 4)-> Lostock Jn. ARS routed fine into the DPL, but didn't set routes from 627 or 629. It did, however, set a route from 633 when the train was at Moses Gate. When manually routed, the train showed 'off planned path' once past 627 and ARS could only be re-enabled when approaching 633.

In the opposite direction, I've timetabled Bolton (P3)-> Burnden Jn (Line UPL)-> Salford Crescent. TT validates, however the train reports off planned path at all points on its journey.

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Last edited: 28/08/2020 at 16:24 by Steamer
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Moses Gate ARS issue 30/08/2020 at 01:24 #131102
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377 posts 		Steamer in post 131086 said:


What locations did you use?

I've just tested Salford Crescent-> Burnden Jn (Line DPL)-> Bolton (Plat 4)-> Lostock Jn. ARS routed fine into the DPL, but didn't set routes from 627 or 629. It did, however, set a route from 633 when the train was at Moses Gate. When manually routed, the train showed 'off planned path' once past 627 and ARS could only be re-enabled when approaching 633.

In the opposite direction, I've timetabled Bolton (P3)-> Burnden Jn (Line UPL)-> Salford Crescent. TT validates, however the train reports off planned path at all points on its journey.

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Well, I do believe you're right. I'll confess I'd only had chance to check the inbound routings in both directions and assumed that was things sorted. Apologies for that.

Looks like ARS is flawed on this one, so the Mantis item needs to stand. I'll also add it to my personal list of known issues with V2.0 of Piccadilly.
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