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0D07 - something seems to be amiss

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4869 posts 		Question - I can't get the loader to update, or I get the message "File does not exist on server" when running the updater.

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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 14:19 #138211
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1766 posts 		0D07 and 6E03
Something here seems a little bit odd to me but perhaps someone can put my mind at rest.
6E03 entered the sim from Gascoigne Wood and reversed (presumably) into Milford West sidings from signal 5235 at Milford Junction. You can see it in siding No.8 in the screenshot. Anyway, the loco 0D07 has detached and is now ready to depart, towards Milford (sig M5252) according to the tt. If the train reversed into the siding, I would have expected the loco to be at the Milford Junction end of the train which is where I’ve inserted its TD.
I can't see anything related to this in the Forum posts.


I've attached the 05:40 save and can provide an earlier save if required.

It’s perhaps my logic that is fooling me and someone will be able to explain things.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 14:30 #138212
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1315 posts 		Does 0D07 perhaps wait until 6E03 has left before performing its run-around? In other words, is 6D07's departure later than 6E03's departure?
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 14:43 #138213
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1039 posts 		I'd imagine that the two turning locations are simply the wrong way round.

Edit: Would appear to not make much sense. Would only need to head out to 5235 and back on top of 6D07, Unless it's propelled all the way from GW.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 14:50 #138216
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1766 posts 		Albert in post 138212 said:
Does 0D07 perhaps wait until 6E03 has left before performing its run-around? In other words, is 6D07's departure later than 6E03's departure?
I don't think that it does. 0D07 joins 6D07 (just wagons) in siding 12 and the combined unit (6D07) departs at 06:40, presumably this morning.
6E03 joins another loco later today and departs as 6V85 at 22:35.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 14:53 #138217
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1315 posts 		Not having the sim in front of me, which way is 6D07 supposed to leave? Towards Milford Jn?

Also, given you say 6E03 reversed at 5235, I guess it will have its loco at the south (Milford Jn) end which propelled the train into the siding.

If both of my guesses are true, then the loco should just reverse once at 5235 instead of running around.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:09 #138218
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1766 posts 		I'm thinking that a simple edit of the timetable would correct the situation. I think that I'll remove the second calling point (Milford Sig M525) and see what happens.
If that doesn't work, I'll have a play around until it's resolved. At that point I'll post the solution.

Edit: The sim insists that 6E03 is in front when I set a route towards Milford Junction having removed the calling point mentioned above
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:19 #138220
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1766 posts 		bugsy in post 138218 said:
I'm thinking that a simple edit of the timetable would correct the situation. I think that I'll remove the second calling point (Milford Sig M525) and see what happens.
If that doesn't work, I'll have a play around until it's resolved. At that point I'll post the solution.

Edit: The sim insists that 6E03 is in front when I set a route towards Milford Junction having removed the calling point mentioned above

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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:19 #138221
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1315 posts 		What way is 0D07 facing? Up or down when it says that 6E03 is in front?

EDIT: see it is facing up. This suggests it is at the north (down) end of the train instead. It should be possible to route it out on its original TT by setting signal N8.

As to why it ended up on the north side, I would have to look at 6E03's timetable once I have access to the sim.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:30 #138223
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1766 posts 		Albert in post 138221 said:
What way is 0D07 facing? Up or down when it says that 6E03 is in front?

EDIT: see it is facing up. This suggests it is at the north (down) end of the train instead. It should be possible to route it out on its original TT by setting signal N8.

As to why it ended up on the north side, I would have to look at 6E03's timetable once I have access to the sim.
I've just reinstated the calling point Milford Sig5252 and 0D07 has left in the UP direction towards Gascoigne Wood. I can't say whether or not UP is correct.

This means that when 6E03 entered the sim the loco was at the rear end propelling it forward. Can't be right surely.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:48 #138225
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387 posts 		Seems odd but that's how it seems. 6E03 enters siding 8 with the loco at the front, which detaches DEF as 0D07 and departs towards Gascoigne wood.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 15:54 #138226
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1766 posts 		I allowed a train (OD07?) from siding 8 to follow the timetable of 0D07 but couldn’t set a route from signal 5235at Milford Junction into siding 12. This is the only one not permissive from the Milford Junction direction. I talked it past the signal but as can be seen in the attached screenshot, it is joining 6D07 whilst overhanging the points.

I think that this need further investigation.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 16:00 #138227
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1315 posts 		The weird thing is that the route is available from M685. Is it there from M5233?
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 16:23 #138229
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1766 posts 		Albert in post 138227 said:
The weird thing is that the route is available from M685. Is it there from M5233?
No. From 5235. It's left a "ghostly" TD at that location.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 16:32 #138230
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1315 posts 		I just start a new game, occupied the track circuit of siding 12 through F11, and the route is there from 5233 and from 5235. I don't see why you need to set the points manually - just a SPAD should be sufficient? Or was 6D07 already overhanging the points before attaching the loco?
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 16:50 #138231
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1111 posts 		If you do start a new game try one of the simpler timetables first. Phils 2018 will help you get used to the area
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 16:54 #138232
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371 posts 		Meld in post 138231 said:
If you do start a new game try one of the simpler timetables first. Phils 2018 will help you get used to the area
Yes, agree with Meld. I did some of the testing on West Yorks Oct 2018 for Phil and I was very inexperienced on the sim prior to that. Certainly learnt a lot but in a steady way without being overwhelmed!
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 18:21 #138234
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387 posts 		Albert in post 138230 said:
I just start a new game, occupied the track circuit of siding 12 through F11, and the route is there from 5233 and from 5235. I don't see why you need to set the points manually - just a SPAD should be sufficient? Or was 6D07 already overhanging the points before attaching the loco?
No, but you can't set the route with 6D07 occupying the TC T1428 but you can (as you say) if you occupy it with F11> Possibly because 6D07 is facing UP.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 18:28 #138235
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1766 posts 		Albert in post 138230 said:
I just start a new game, occupied the track circuit of siding 12 through F11, and the route is there from 5233 and from 5235. I don't see why you need to set the points manually - just a SPAD should be sufficient? Or was 6D07 already overhanging the points before attaching the loco?
The route wouldn't set so I set the points manually and ordered the train to SPAD as you have suggested. It started to join whilst overhanging the points.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 29/03/2021 at 18:37 #138236
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1766 posts 		andyallen4014 in post 138232 said:
Meld in post 138231 said:
If you do start a new game try one of the simpler timetables first. Phils 2018 will help you get used to the area
Yes, agree with Meld. I did some of the testing on West Yorks Oct 2018 for Phil and I was very inexperienced on the sim prior to that. Certainly learnt a lot but in a steady way without being overwhelmed!
I don't find this timetable particularly difficult. Mind you, I have forgotten about the odd crossing and no doubt stacked up a few negative points in the process. Furthermore, I've only been playing through the sim "night time" period and expect it to get much more difficult as the day progresses.

Anyway. I have started a different timetable now (15-10-09) and hopefully will be able to resume my 2018 game as soon as someone can resolve my little problem
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 30/03/2021 at 09:07 #138243
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1766 posts 		Here is an update:

When 6D07 had finished joining 6D67 the new formation began to exit Milford West sidings in the direction of Milford Junction, which according to the timetable is the first calling point after its scheduled departure time of 06:40.
I decided to reverse the train to send it back into siding 12 which incidentally, is long enough to accommodate it.
It stopped at signal M7601/N12 facing the down direction so I reversed it again and it finally came to rest at signal M686 facing UP (towards Milford Junction) which is correct.

The upshot is that the problem has been resolved and I can now send the train on its way, either early or I can wait until its scheduled departure time.
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0D07 - something seems to be amiss 19/01/2022 at 19:31 #143668
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1181 posts 		bugsy in post 138226 said:
I allowed a train (OD07?) from siding 8 to follow the timetable of 0D07 but couldn’t set a route from signal 5235at Milford Junction into siding 12. This is the only one not permissive from the Milford Junction direction. I talked it past the signal but as can be seen in the attached screenshot, it is joining 6D07 whilst overhanging the points.

I think that this need further investigation.

This happened to me on a Tuesday. 6D07 should have seeded at N12 not M686, 0D07 had to be talked through due to subroute locked in Up direction. The resultant joined loco occupied T1552.

Incidentally, 0D07 came off the front of 6E03, but that train had been propelled into the sidings from M5235. The loco would have been at the Up end, not the Down end of Milford West and the description didn't suggest that 6E03 was TnT.

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