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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 10:04 #139676
nnr
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170 posts 		Am running 2006 TT and keep getting "Non Described Train in berth E544" error.

Any ideas, anyone please?

Cheers

N.
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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 10:16 #139677
Albert
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1315 posts 		I see no signal E544 on the signal number plan but there is an M544 in the UPL at Law Junction. Is there a train in this loop?
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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 10:58 #139679
Peter Bennet
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5419 posts 		It's a Carlisle signal on the Up just off-screen.
I know why it's doing it, leave it with me to figure out what I was attempting to achieve.

Peter

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Last edited: 23/05/2021 at 11:23 by Peter Bennet
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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 11:39 #139680
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170 posts 		Thanks, Peter.
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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 20:24 #139687
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1315 posts 		That'd be signal CE544 then, but I understand berths have a four-character ID.

I see the signal number plan of Motherwell still shows the signal identities from the Carlisle EXE instead of Carlisle loader.
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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 21:33 #139689
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5419 posts 		Albert in post 139687 said:
That'd be signal CE544 then, but I understand berths have a four-character ID. I see the signal number plan of Motherwell still shows the signal identities from the Carlisle EXE instead of Carlisle loader.
I presume Carlisle's been resignalled at some point.

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Non Described Train apparent error 23/05/2021 at 21:49 #139690
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3997 posts 		Peter Bennet in post 139689 said:
Albert in post 139687 said:
That'd be signal CE544 then, but I understand berths have a four-character ID. I see the signal number plan of Motherwell still shows the signal identities from the Carlisle EXE instead of Carlisle loader.
I presume Carlisle's been resignalled at some point.

Peter
There was a mistake on the original signal number plan for Carlisle, which I must have carried forward on to the Motherwell one for the external signals, as they aren't clickable on that simulation. My error, and for the avoidance of doubt entirely unrelated to the workings of either simulation.
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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 15:43 #139706
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170 posts 		Sory to be a pain, chaps, but I'm still getting the error having started a new simulation.
It doesn't affect the play, however,!!
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N.
Last edited: 24/05/2021 at 15:44 by nnr
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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 15:56 #139708
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3997 posts 		nnr in post 139706 said:
Sory to be a pain, chaps, but I'm still getting the error having started a new simulation.
It doesn't affect the play, however,!!
Cheers
N.
It'll persist until an update to the simulation is released.
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Last edited: 24/05/2021 at 15:56 by Steamer
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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 15:57 #139709
Peter Bennet
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5419 posts 		nnr in post 139706 said:
Sory to be a pain, chaps, but I'm still getting the error having started a new simulation.
It doesn't affect the play, however,!!
Cheers
N.
You will, till I release a Sim update.
It does not affect the operation.

The TD was supposed to be copied to a Last-sent berth but because I'd not provided that berth the TD was being copied not nowhere, that should have left the master TD to step forward as normal. For reason that I don't fully understand, instead of just not copying it it was deleting the original TD thus leaving nothing to step. What is head-scratchy is that this coding has been there since January 2018 but has only just come to light.

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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 16:17 #139710
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388 posts 		Presumably because it is a recent innovation to give an error message for berths containing non-described trains.
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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 18:57 #139714
Peter Bennet
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5419 posts 		Dick in post 139710 said:
Presumably because it is a recent innovation to give an error message for berths containing non-described trains.
Ha, I suspected it was something changed in core code, that would be it.

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Non Described Train apparent error 24/05/2021 at 19:30 #139717
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6380 posts 		Dick in post 139710 said:
Presumably because it is a recent innovation to give an error message for berths containing non-described trains.
Re-instated (or fixed) rather than an innovation.
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Non Described Train apparent error 03/06/2021 at 19:56 #139858
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1189 posts 		Hi Peter,

Do you know what berth causes (C)E544 to be filled? MC860 (Cove Crossing UM) is too late as it caused this error on seed there.

Thanks
Jamie
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Non Described Train apparent error 07/06/2021 at 12:46 #139892
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170 posts 		The same occurs (tells how obserbant I am that I've just noticed it!)when a train exits to Midcalder from the Shotts line, quoting J722 as the affected berth.

Haven't noticed it (but then..............) on the Carstairs - Midcalder route.

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Non Described Train apparent error 10/06/2021 at 09:56 #139921
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1189 posts 		Disregard, the (C)E544 and (E)J522 are occurring on every exiting train.

9pN1SEAp in post 139858 said:
Hi Peter,

Do you know what berth causes (C)E544 to be filled? MC860 (Cove Crossing UM) is too late as it caused this error on seed there.

Thanks
Jamie
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Non Described Train apparent error 31/12/2022 at 21:04 #149846
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1189 posts 		Hi,

Any news on an update to Motherwell for these non-described errors (and ARS to Newton P1 in modern era) please?

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Jamie
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