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| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 04/05/2014 at 14:29 #60033 | |
Andy174
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Not sure where this sits within the conflict of interest but any views on a sim set in the 1980's-1990's covering Dartford PSB down to say Faversham incorporating the boxes at Rochester/Gillingham/Rainham/Sittingbourne/Faversham and including the Medway Valley line/Sheerness branch and Grain freight line. Scope for plenty of freight workings and commuter traffic etc.
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| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 04/05/2014 at 17:53 #60041 | |
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John
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I understand from the TRE website that the 2 MCS workstations covering the North Kent area have already been simulated for Network Rail. Whether these could ever be released in their current form as Marylebone was, I don't know, but it seems unlikely. Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 06/05/2014 at 11:46 #60126 | |
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kbarber
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1980s/90s wouldn't have a conflict of interest I imagine, as they predate the current workstations. Research would be rather more challenging though.
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| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 06/05/2014 at 15:21 #60132 | |
GeoffM
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Yes, Dartford PSB pre-dates any conflict of interest. There is a video out there somewhere, probably on Youtube, of them installing and testing Dartford panel.
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| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 06/05/2014 at 18:55 #60149 | |
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Jan
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First Of The Thirteen
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 06/05/2014 at 19:37 #60152 | |
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kbarber
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" said:First Of The ThirteenYes, they were going to work the whole lot Sound familiar? :whistle: Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 19/08/2021 at 13:02 #141212 | |
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Andy174
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If a pre IECC sim covering the Dartford ASC & the Medway/swale area (ie Rochester/Gillingham/Sittingbourne/Faversham) boxes in the 1980's & 90's period & perhaps those on the Medway Valley line was ever considered I could assist with research as I started as a boxboy at Gillingham in 1986 & was a secondman/driver in the same area so am familiar with the then track layouts & freight/passenger traffic.
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| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 22/08/2021 at 15:55 #141301 | |
ajax103
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kbarber in post 60126 said:1980s/90s wouldn't have a conflict of interest I imagine, as they predate the current workstations. Research would be rather more challenging though.Not really, there's people behind the scenes who would have the information needed already but the challenging part is if they're actually asked besides if a 1950s layout of Penzance can be done for a rival simulation then there's no reason why the same sources can't be used for a SimSig one. Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 22/08/2021 at 16:29 #141302 | |
postal
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ajax103 in post 141301 said:kbarber in post 60126 said:Do you have any way of knowing whether the 1950s layout produced by the rival is accurate to the standards that SimSig expects?1980s/90s wouldn't have a conflict of interest I imagine, as they predate the current workstations. Research would be rather more challenging though.Not really, there's people behind the scenes who would have the information needed already but the challenging part is if they're actually asked besides if a 1950s layout of Penzance can be done for a rival simulation then there's no reason why the same sources can't be used for a SimSig one. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 22/08/2021 at 16:30 by postal Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 22/08/2021 at 16:54 #141304 | |
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ajax103
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postal in post 141302 said:ajax103 in post 141301 said:Well to put it another way, do we know that any SimSig layout is accurate to the standards that the rival sim expects? It's a two way thingkbarber in post 60126 said:Do you have any way of knowing whether the 1950s layout produced by the rival is accurate to the standards that SimSig expects?1980s/90s wouldn't have a conflict of interest I imagine, as they predate the current workstations. Research would be rather more challenging though.Not really, there's people behind the scenes who would have the information needed already but the challenging part is if they're actually asked besides if a 1950s layout of Penzance can be done for a rival simulation then there's no reason why the same sources can't be used for a SimSig one. Log in to reply |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 22/08/2021 at 18:31 #141307 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Without knowing what is required by the developers of any rival simulation I could not comment on what information they use/need. What I do know is that the level of information required to make a realistic SimSig simulation is substantial, and that for anywhere in the 1950s it is unlikely to be available. A photograph of the box diagram will not be enough as it only shows where each signal/point/track is relative to the others not how they interlock with each other, how long they are etc. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: elltrain3 |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 22/08/2021 at 21:17 #141315 | |
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bill_gensheet
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My understanding is that between National archives Kew (for WTT and loco diagrams etc), the SRS and various people around the Exeter West group that there is a suffice of information for their purposes which are not far short of SimSig at all. Given that SimSig is track circuit based, artificial TC's would need to be created anyway as little TC existed back then, much as is the case still in mechanical areas, with the on-screen red occupations being more a case of 'I can see the train' from the box. Interlocking either from first principles or notices again is not unobtainium by any means. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| Dartford/Medway pre Ashford IECC 15/09/2021 at 08:58 #141569 | |
Giantray
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kbarber in post 60152 said:" said:Is it me or does Britain's railway start off with great intentions to create a brilliant idea, set about implementing it, but as time goes on they either never finish the intended projection or the final scheme is nothing like was envisaged, just a poor cheaper option with many parts cut for cost?First Of The ThirteenYes, they were going to work the whole lot Professionalism mean nothing around a bunch of Amateur wannabees! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Albert |