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| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 09:21 #150505 | |
JamesDaniel
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Hiya, Derby in 2018 went under huge procedures to redevelop the station with 1 platform being added and 1 being taken out with all the signalling and tracks being upgraded. It’s been transferred to the EMCC (east midland control centre) and I was just wondering if there was any plans for derby to have a new era? James    Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 09:32 #150506 | |
MrSuttonmann
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I think your answer can be found here. As a side note, I've just noticed on those diagrams that there's no easy route from platforms 1 & 2 to the rest of the station or sidings. Interesting design choice - it makes P1&2 almost a seperate station. (Formerly known as manadude2) Last edited: 17/02/2023 at 09:38 by MrSuttonmann Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesDaniel |
| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 10:39 #150507 | |
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JamesDaniel
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Also… is Trent in process of being turned into loader format because then we can chain a few things together and that’d be cool.
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| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 10:50 #150508 | |
bill_gensheet
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MrSuttonmann in post 150506 said:Makes some sense operationally, P1/P2 for Birmingham - Sheffield, P3/P4/P5 for local reversals (Crewe - Nottingham etc) P6/P7 London - Sheffield. Bad aspect is P1 is far easier access and facilities, not to mention better sheltered yet sees fewer trains. Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 12:47 #150509 | |
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JamesDaniel
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bill_gensheet in post 150508 said:MrSuttonmann in post 150506 said:P7 is only used for ECS moves… no one knows why but why was there any point of making it because there must be under 20 psgr trains that have used it.Makes some sense operationally, P1/P2 for Birmingham - Sheffield, P3/P4/P5 for local reversals (Crewe - Nottingham etc) P6/P7 London - Sheffield. Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 17/02/2023 at 14:44 #150510 | |
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Phil-jmw
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bill_gensheet in post 150508 said:MrSuttonmann in post 150506 said:P1/P2 - NE/SWMakes some sense operationally, P1/P2 for Birmingham - Sheffield, P3/P4/P5 for local reversals (Crewe - Nottingham etc) P6/P7 London - Sheffield. P3/P4 - Primarily reversals but can be used by NE/SW and London - Sheffield (the only two platforms which can be accessed by both routes) P5/P6 - London - Sheffield P7 - Saw regular use during the remodelling in 2018 but is not in regular passenger use now. It is what was the Pilot Sdg on the old layout. Last edited: 17/02/2023 at 14:57 by Phil-jmw Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bill_gensheet |
| Derby New Station Layout. 18/02/2023 at 07:54 #150523 | |
andyallen4014
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JamesDaniel in post 150509 said:I'm sure somebody must know why! User | Multiplayer Host | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 18/02/2023 at 11:32 #150525 | |
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officer dibble
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andyallen4014 in post 150523 said:JamesDaniel in post 150509 said:Probably for operational benefits. Easier to change ends walking along a platform than walking through the train or on the ballast (less STF hazards).I'm sure somebody must know why! When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 18/02/2023 at 18:28 #150531 | |
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Late Turn
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JamesDaniel in post 150509 said:
It's not a passenger line, because there's no protection against movements coming out of sidings without authority at either Etches Park depot or Chaddesden - otherwise, they'd need trap points or some form of flank protection. Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 18/02/2023 at 19:05 #150532 | |
headshot119
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JamesDaniel in post 150509 said:bill_gensheet in post 150508 said:It was built primarily to allow Derby station to be served during the remodelling works, it was built on a goods line it had dispensation for passenger use throughout the works. Since the works are now over it is only used occasionally and there's specific rulebook requirements around passenger trains on goods lines.MrSuttonmann in post 150506 said:P7 is only used for ECS moves… no one knows why but why was there any point of making it because there must be under 20 psgr trains that have used it.Makes some sense operationally, P1/P2 for Birmingham - Sheffield, P3/P4/P5 for local reversals (Crewe - Nottingham etc) P6/P7 London - Sheffield. It does now see use by staff for internal carriage cleaning, and allows easy access for those events. Whether this was intended originally, or just a happy side affect I don't know. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 18/02/2023 at 22:58 #150539 | |
jc92
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JamesDaniel in post 150509 said:Almost certainly still a better record than Ramsline halt! "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 19/02/2023 at 17:44 #150562 | |
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flyingscotsman
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bill_gensheet in post 150508 said:MrSuttonmann in post 150506 said:actually platform 5 is used for sheffield to london and for some matlock trainsMakes some sense operationally, P1/P2 for Birmingham - Sheffield, P3/P4/P5 for local reversals (Crewe - Nottingham etc) P6/P7 London - Sheffield. Log in to reply |
| Derby New Station Layout. 22/02/2023 at 08:17 #150605 | |
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JamesDaniel
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Ramsline Halt/St andrews has been shut for many years. The platform itself is still there but track has now gone.
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