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| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 15:49 #150594 | |
MrSuttonmann
265 posts |
It's been nearly three years since @Istant reported that the debugging areas of Stafford are visible in the normal release version, and also again reported by @elltrain3 about a month later. SimSim prides itself on producing quality simulations, going as far as making older simulations obsolete as they didn't meet standards. Why has Stafford slipped the net in this regard? I'm honestly surprised it was able to be released in this state, and no effort has visibly been made to recify it, bar opening Mantis 30836 which cannot be viewed by Joe Public - no status update has been provided either. I understand it's a free simulation, but I'd argue that people use the free simulations to weigh up purchasing other simulations. Stafford has these debug areas visible, Hong Kong East has issues in certain eras and Derby has had it's fair share of issues too (though I'm glad to see it's being overhauled currently) It would be good to know where some simulations stand in terms of support and activity. (Formerly known as manadude2) Last edited: 21/02/2023 at 15:49 by MrSuttonmann Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: axmh |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 16:21 #150595 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
I'm not at the computer to delve too far into the forum to link you to it, but I gave an overview regarding Derby and Stafford in a thread regarding where a similar question was asked about Derby. Stafford is also receiving work behind the scenes as is Derby as you mention. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: axmh |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 16:37 #150596 | |
axmh
61 posts |
headshot119 in post 150595 said:I'm not at the computer to delve too far into the forum to link you to it, but I gave an overview regarding Derby and Stafford in a thread regarding where a similar question was asked about Derby.I appreciated the efforts on the work on improving Derby sim But I must admit I got the impression that Staffordshire sim replaced Stafford sim but anyway, looking forward to the improved versions of Stafford and Derby. Log in to reply |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 18:10 #150597 | |
pedroathome
915 posts |
axmh in post 150596 said:headshot119 in post 150595 said:I like to think that Staffordshire and Stafford are much the same thing as Wembley Mainline and Euston in that they represent a different period of time.I'm not at the computer to delve too far into the forum to link you to it, but I gave an overview regarding Derby and Stafford in a thread regarding where a similar question was asked about Derby.I appreciated the efforts on the work on improving Derby sim Log in to reply |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 20:03 #150598 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
I did a lot of work on Stafford recently and I think the residual issue was chaining between Wolverhampton and Stafford/Staffordshire which involves three different Developers and then it all fell down the back of my virtual sofa. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: axmh |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 20:24 #150599 | |
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MrSuttonmann
265 posts |
headshot119 in post 150595 said:I'm not at the computer to delve too far into the forum to link you to it, but I gave an overview regarding Derby and Stafford in a thread regarding where a similar question was asked about Derby.Ahh that’s great news about Stafford. I must have missed that particular post, as I did know about the Derby work. I must suggest though for the sake of transparency that we could have a page probably in the wiki where there’s a development status of each sim. It doesn’t need to be in much detail, but even brief statuses such as “Stable, no changes planned”, “Improvements planned”, “Improvements in progress” would be a helpful resource. I obviously don’t know how management feels about that, but I feel it would be useful from a user’s pov. (Formerly known as manadude2) Log in to reply |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 22:19 #150602 | |
bugsy
1766 posts |
MrSuttonmann in post 150599 said:headshot119 in post 150595 said:I seem to remember this being suggested some time ago, but I don’t think that anything came of it. Actually, you contributed to the discussion. Have a look at this link.I'm not at the computer to delve too far into the forum to link you to it, but I gave an overview regarding Derby and Stafford in a thread regarding where a similar question was asked about Derby.Ahh that’s great news about Stafford. I must have missed that particular post, as I did know about the Derby work. Development Simulation Updates Suggestion | SimSig - Simulator of Railway Signalling Systems Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| Is this sim dead? 21/02/2023 at 23:05 #150603 | |
Stephen Fulcher
2078 posts |
MrSuttonmann in post 150599 said:Seems a bit pointless - a sim is either supported or it isn’t. If a sim wasn’t stable it wouldn’t be released in that form and any issues which are raised by users can be seen for progression now that there are links with Mantis when the ticket number is posted. The gist of your complaint seems to be that the debug area was visible on the public release. Whilst that shouldn’t be the case it won’t stop the sim working (unless you mess with some items in it that were put there for testing purposes) and nothing new has been logged for some time. Making changes to old simulations is like opening the proverbial can of worms, as was found with Derby where a few outstanding bug fixes quickly escalated into major background work for Karl, all of which is having to be thoroughly tested before it can be released. Stafford is older than Derby being paged originally, and would undoubtedly be the same. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Hap, axmh |