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S&T Assistance 23/02/2023 at 22:59 #150631
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Hi,

I have managed to get into a bit of a state. Just after I had released the BNE-MAI token and the driver had taken possession, I foolishly tried to collar the points indicator to protect Spade Oak LC, possibly whilst the points were in swing and managed to cause AcOA either by doing that or somehow managing to replace the indicator whilst right-clicking the reminder.

Anyways, now the token is out, and the driver is requesting it again, I can't offer it or get driver to return it for cycling, so an impasse has been reached!
(EDIT: Abandoned TT allowed train to depart after stopping at BE1 and granting authority)

I don't have an immediate earlier save, only the auto-save 15 mins earlier and one taken just after the second attempt to withdraw token from the empty machine. Logs below.

Thanks
Jamie


11:13:21 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Permission for departure of 2B29 from Bourne End towards Maidenhead granted, I will release the token now
11:13:26 Bourne End Token Withdrawn
11:13:41 2P40 arrived at West Drayton 8 min(s) late
11:13:46 Signal Points Indicator BE1 pulled: 120 seconds approach locking
11:13:47 2B29 received an adverse change of aspect at signal Points Indicator BE1
11:13:50 Spade Oak LC: Safe to cross
11:13:53 Train 2B29: Driver, please continue after speaking to your control

11:17:40 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Please call back in 2 minutes
11:18:00 1A12 has entered: Twyford (Up Main)
11:18:26 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Please call back in 2 minutes
11:18:34 5O61 waiting at red signal DR20
11:18:40 Simulation saved ok

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S&T Assistance 24/02/2023 at 00:14 #150632
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9pN1SEAp in post 150631 said:
Hi,

I have managed to get into a bit of a state. Just after I had released the BNE-MAI token and the driver had taken possession, I foolishly tried to collar the points indicator to protect Spade Oak LC, possibly whilst the points were in swing and managed to cause AcOA either by doing that or somehow managing to replace the indicator whilst right-clicking the reminder.

Anyways, now the token is out, and the driver is requesting it again, I can't offer it or get driver to return it for cycling, so an impasse has been reached!
(EDIT: Abandoned TT allowed train to depart after stopping at BE1 and granting authority)

I don't have an immediate earlier save, only the auto-save 15 mins earlier and one taken just after the second attempt to withdraw token from the empty machine. Logs below.

Thanks
Jamie


11:13:21 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Permission for departure of 2B29 from Bourne End towards Maidenhead granted, I will release the token now
11:13:26 Bourne End Token Withdrawn
11:13:41 2P40 arrived at West Drayton 8 min(s) late
11:13:46 Signal Points Indicator BE1 pulled: 120 seconds approach locking
11:13:47 2B29 received an adverse change of aspect at signal Points Indicator BE1
11:13:50 Spade Oak LC: Safe to cross
11:13:53 Train 2B29: Driver, please continue after speaking to your control

11:17:40 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Please call back in 2 minutes
11:18:00 1A12 has entered: Twyford (Up Main)
11:18:26 Bourne End Down Side Token Hut: Please call back in 2 minutes
11:18:34 5O61 waiting at red signal DR20
11:18:40 Simulation saved ok
Jamie,

The only way I was able to reproduce this was to manually cancel the (internal/hidden/secret) route from Points Indicator BE1 – I thought I'd put in the line of code in the data that disables that control in the right-click menu but a quick peek into the simulation data files says that I hadn't, so apologies. I suspect you did accidentally hit the cancel route control while trying to remove the reminder, as the only other mechanism available to the player to kill that route is to remove the train; and you didn't do that.

I did try and anticipate these kinds of little gaps where players can break the very complicated logic behind the token system; alas you've inadvertently found a case I didn't account for so thank you.

Once 2B29 gets off the branch having been authorised past BE1 the whole system should reboot itself so provided you don't do it again that will be the end of it.

Mantis 38161 to close that gap in a future update and disable the cancel route control to prevent others from falling through the same gap.

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S&T Assistance 24/02/2023 at 08:43 #150633
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Thanks James,
The state was cleared to normal when 2B29 reported arrival at Maidenhead with the token returned.

Idiot-proof logic is no match for my special kind of idiocy

Jamie S (JAMS)
Last edited: 24/02/2023 at 08:44 by 9pN1SEAp
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