SimSig - Loader 5.27 (TaCOma) - Released

Because the file structure has changed slightly with this update, you will need to update your loader to 5.27, and then run the updater again from within loader 5.27 to get everything in the correct place.

In a future loader we will tidy up any stray files from the initial update to version 5.27.

Some very welcomed features however with the regards to the Class of Service function, it seems to refer to Class 325 mail services as suggesting to use Passenger as the Class of Service - shouldn't it recognise the fact that the Class 325 is not a passenger train and instead suggest that Goods is chosen as the Class of Service?

Does it just look at the headcode to offer a suggestion and not the train type? If that's the case, could it not look at the train type instead if it's actually possible?

I just fired up the Ground Hog Day 2009 TT for Warrington and that's what it does, it's a great little function but thought I point that out as it's probably something behind the scenes that's doing it which is also probably very easy to fix.

Congrats on the update though as there's features that I've wanted for a while :)

ajax103 in post 154078 said:

Some very welcomed features however with the regards to the Class of Service function, it seems to refer to Class 325 mail services as suggesting to use Passenger as the Class of Service - shouldn't it recognise the fact that the Class 325 is not a passenger train and instead suggest that Goods is chosen as the Class of Service?

Does it just look at the headcode to offer a suggestion and not the train type? If that's the case, could it not look at the train type instead if it's actually possible?

I just fired up the Ground Hog Day 2009 TT for Warrington and that's what it does, it's a great little function but thought I point that out as it's probably something behind the scenes that's doing it which is also probably very easy to fix.

Congrats on the update though as there's features that I've wanted for a while :)

You can read more about Class of Service Rules on the Wiki. The new feature tells you exactly what Class of Service Rule will be used for a particular train.

I'm sorry Karl, maybe the question wasn't clear but with the new coding in place that "suggests" what to use as a Class of Service, how does it work in the background? Does it simply go by what the train type uses, does it go by what headcode is in use? How does it know what to offer as a suggestion?

I was using it twice last night while timetabling and it gave me two suggestions (charter train and passenger) for what where Class 325 operated mail trains

It is a useful tool though but I was curious how it worked behind the scenes.

ajax103 in post 154096 said:

I'm sorry Karl, maybe the question wasn't clear but with the new coding in place that "suggests" what to use as a Class of Service, how does it work in the background? Does it simply go by what the train type uses, does it go by what headcode is in use? How does it know what to offer as a suggestion?

I was using it twice last night while timetabling and it gave me two suggestions (charter train and passenger) for what where Class 325 operated mail trains

It is a useful tool though but I was curious how it worked behind the scenes.

The text is not a suggestion, it is an output telling you what the COS rules have deduced, and therefore what COS will be applied to, that train.
The inputs are:
TD (first character in the default rules)
'Speed Class' (eg EMU, SP etc)
Freight line speeds ticked (Yes/No)

There may be a case for an explicit 'Parcels' COS to be set directly or by custom rules.
(Will create Mantis if likely to be taken on).

The user content feature is a good idea, but there's one thing I noticed about it. When you click on a sim name on the left and expand the contents below, moving up and down the expanded list with the arrow keys doesn't update the panel to the right. You have to left-click with the mouse. Is this easily changed?

A minor point, I know :-)

Since we are talking 325s here the simplest solution is to set the COS to excursion

Older timetables where parcels ran either as class 3/4 you do the same

No need for a separate COS there aren't that many services operated by 325s so its no biggy to just alter the COS on the notes tab to excursion

lazzer in post 154106 said:

The user content feature is a good idea, but there's one thing I noticed about it. When you click on a sim name on the left and expand the contents below, moving up and down the expanded list with the arrow keys doesn't update the panel to the right. You have to left-click with the mouse. Is this easily changed?

A minor point, I know :-)

Could you let us know which OS you are using? And do you get the same behaviour when using the arrow keys on the simulation list?

Meld in post 154112 said:

Since we are talking 325s here the simplest solution is to set the COS to excursion

Older timetables where parcels ran either as class 3/4 you do the same

No need for a separate COS there aren't that many services operated by 325s so its no biggy to just alter the COS on the notes tab to excursion

ECS might be more appropriate arguably as it allows early entry and early departure by default, although you lose the wrong platform penalty. Excursion will force on time entry.

jc92 in post 154114 said:

Meld in post 154112 said:

Since we are talking 325s here the simplest solution is to set the COS to excursion

Older timetables where parcels ran either as class 3/4 you do the same

No need for a separate COS there aren't that many services operated by 325s so its no biggy to just alter the COS on the notes tab to excursion

ECS might be more appropriate arguably as it allows early entry and early departure by default, although you lose the wrong platform penalty. Excursion will force on time entry.

You have to be a bit cautious with that as some of the 325 schedules are aligned to the availability of the mail for despatch and in those cases an early departure is most definitely a no-no.

jc92 in post 154114 said:

Meld in post 154112 said:

Since we are talking 325s here the simplest solution is to set the COS to excursion

Older timetables where parcels ran either as class 3/4 you do the same

No need for a separate COS there aren't that many services operated by 325s so its no biggy to just alter the COS on the notes tab to excursion

ECS might be more appropriate arguably as it allows early entry and early departure by default, although you lose the wrong platform penalty. Excursion will force on time entry.

You have to be a bit cautious with that as some of the 325 schedules are aligned to the availability of the mail for despatch and in those cases an early departure is most definitely a no-no.

Congrats to Geoff & Co on the new Loader features. One of the most frustrating things with Simsig was the inability to use reminders in certain scenarios. Having the ability to put on Line Reminders easierly and other additions to reminders has added more realism to the Simsig experience. Now Line Blockages, Engineer Possessions can be shown and be easily seen.

The only out standing realism feature missing is the S&T Techs ringing in when they are on site of a failure. Presently you cannot make any informed decisions with trains because you have no idea when a failure is going to be worked on and possibly fixed, knowing the Techs are in attendence helps. Presently I wait awhile, then collar up the area for what might be a Line Blockage taken for the S&T to attend and then work trains around it rather than through the fault if possible.

Hi,

On Derby I notified the Station Supervisor of a platform alteration, even after a few minutes the new platform isn't being reflected in the Line-Up?

Thanks
Jamie