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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 08:54 #18764
nezza
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To be honest it dosent matter where the meet is held it will be a pain for some people to get to, you cant please everybody
I totally agree with you :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 08:56 #18765
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I don't understand the comment about the south not being served. After all, with the recent London meet, everybody from Southampton to Dover were within 2 hours of Liverpool Street; not to mention those just north, west, and east of London. Bizarre.

Extremities are out (ie Penzance, Fishguard, Thurso etc). Sheffield is a little too close to Derby though it could be a back up plan next time. Much as I'd like a Scottish meet, I don't know that there are enough people either up that way or willing to travel that far.

As all the meets have been in a triangle bounded by Bristol to the west, London to the south, and York to the north, the logical place for one meet would indeed be Liverpool/Manchester - more so the latter for direct connections to various parts of the UK.

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 09:31 #18769
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I think the comment regarding the south was that to get to Guildford (for example) from large parts of the UK would probably require a transfer across London, which could potentially add quite a hefty time onto any journey; not necessarily that it is inaccessible as such.
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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 09:41 #18770
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I think the comment regarding the south was that to get to Guildford (for example) from large parts of the UK would probably require a transfer across London, which could potentially add quite a hefty time onto any journey; not necessarily that it is inaccessible as such.
I think what the term meant by South being missed is except for London nothing is done where as other areas seem to have it all.. or at least that is my interrelation to it.

Geoff I am sure you would be please to note that Liverpool is on the list (PAGE 3) and along with manchester.

More Updates on the list should be done today

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:21 #18772
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As all the meets have been in a triangle bounded by Bristol to the west, London to the south, and York to the north, the logical place for one meet would indeed be Liverpool/Manchester - more so the latter for direct connections to various parts of the UK.
Crewe might be as easy as Manchester if there was a suitable venue (now if Crewe Heritage Centre with its Exeter West SB had beer as well....).

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:31 #18775
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As all the meets have been in a triangle bounded by Bristol to the west, London to the south, and York to the north, the logical place for one meet would indeed be Liverpool/Manchester - more so the latter for direct connections to various parts of the UK.
Crewe might be as easy as Manchester if there was a suitable venue (now if Crewe Heritage Centre with its Exeter West SB had beer as well....). :unsure:
Not for those from East of the Pennines who have no direct trains to Crewe at all!

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:35 #18777
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The implication of this posting is that nearly everyone wishing to attend has an additional hour at least of travelling time on top of their journey on one of the main transport arteries (and then another hour at least on the return). Unfortunately, I don't think places like Hull (and Inverness and Penzance and Fishguard and Great Yarmouth) are viable for SimSig meets as the additional travelling time to reach them would force most people into at least one (if not two) overnight stays which a lot of budgets will not stand. Realistically, we are forced into somewhere in the rectangle bounded by Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cardiff/Bristol and London (and many would claim that Manchester and York should replace Edinburgh and Glasgow).
I think the outline boundary makes sense, even a place a short distance off the main routes would be fine. I am sure when Nezza produces the list there will be more than enough places on it to choose from as I am sure there will be places where we think OMG I am not going there.

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:36 #18778
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I think the comment regarding the south was that to get to Guildford (for example) from large parts of the UK would probably require a
transfer across London, which could potentially add quite a hefty time onto any journey; not necessarily that it is inaccessible as such.
Are we forgetting the Cross Country service to Reading to connect into a North Downs service to Guildford? Add to that the South West Trains services from the South and the link to the Brighton Main Line from the North Downs, Id say that it would probably be the most accessable place south of London.....

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:38 #18779
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As all the meets have been in a triangle bounded by Bristol to the west, London to the south, and York to the north, the logical place for one meet would indeed be Liverpool/Manchester - more so the latter for direct connections to various parts of the UK.
Crewe might be as easy as Manchester if there was a suitable venue (now if Crewe Heritage Centre with its Exeter West SB had beer as well....). :unsure:
Not for those from East of the Pennines who have no direct trains to Crewe at all!
But for those who dont live near or on a main route ECML or WCML we have to change trains sometimes several times to get there, for me Wakefield was 2 changes, London was direct and Derby will be 2/3 changes.. I am not sure direct trains should be one of the conditions if its to be a fair choice for all those going.

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:40 #18780
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Maybe I should have put a smiley, not an exclamation mark. It was a bit tongue-in-cheek!
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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 10:43 #18783
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The implication of this posting is that nearly everyone wishing to attend has an additional hour at least of travelling time on top of their journey on one of the main transport arteries (and then another hour at least on the return). Unfortunately, I don't think places like Hull (and Inverness and Penzance and Fishguard and Great Yarmouth) are viable for SimSig meets as the additional travelling time to reach them would force most people into at least one (if not two) overnight stays which a lot of budgets will not stand. Realistically, we are forced into somewhere in the rectangle bounded by Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cardiff/Bristol and London (and many would claim that Manchester and York should replace Edinburgh and Glasgow).
I think the outline boundary makes sense, even a place a short distance off the main routes would be fine. I am sure when Nezza produces the list there will be more than enough places on it to choose from as I am sure there will be places where we think OMG I am not going there.
The list is as ever growing now with the inclusion of Crewe

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But for those who dont live near or on a main route ECML or WCML we have to change trains sometimes several times to get there, for me Wakefield was 2 changes, London was direct and Derby will be 2/3 changes.. I am not sure direct trains should be one of the conditions if its to be a fair choice for all those going
Same here i have got to make a few changes to get there

This answers the one point that is being repeated whatever happens someone will always moan about travelling. We are NOT ABLE TO PLEASE EVERYONE

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 11:26 #18798
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Maybe I should have put a smiley, not an exclamation mark. It was a bit tongue-in-cheek!
I wasn't taking it too serious, I am just hoping that a list is put together before we pull it apart, lets see the options I am sure one or two will stand out which we will all generally be happy with.

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 11:36 #18799
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On continuation from Alan I am highlighting all area research to help point out which ones are good as well as ones that could be a possible and also the others are are not a chance in hell shot
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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 11:48 #18800
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OK a complete list of suggestions and results as present

NOTE
RED IS NO GO PLACES
BLUE IS POSSIBLE PLACES
GREEN ARE GOOD SHOTS


Eastleigh -Only few places found could possibly be worthwhile. A couple of good curry houses and overnight places of stay found though

Tonbridge - Very poor area for research found for everything = NO GO

Reading - The places found are at a distance from the station. Some good curry houses and places of overnight stay found

Guildford - Two great places have been found. Good Curry houses found and plenty of places for overnight stay are available. However a debate undergoes about the ease of transport access


Hull - Some really good pubs have been found within 10 minute walk of the station. A couple of curry houses have also been researched. Lots of overnight places are very much available in short distance from station however transport arrangements could be difficult

Swindon - Bit like hull, selected few good pubs with great curry houses in local area and very much accommodating for overnight stay

Cardiff - Many great pubs found especially with Cask Masque, also within close area to the station are hotels for overnight stay and also curry houses for evening food

Swansea - Nothing within the criteria for pubs near station

Manchester - Has a few good pubs all in town center in which is close to all three major stations. Tram services are also an added option op top of the train services at reasonable cost. Curry houses and overnight stay again very wide option available........ (MANY THANKS TO JOSIE FOR INFORMATION)

STILL TO RESEARCH ARE

GLASGOW
EDINBURGH
BIRMINGHAM
EXETER
SOUTHAMPTON
DONCASTER
PRESTON
STEVENAGE
BRISTOL
LEEDS
NOTTINGHAm
LIVERPOOL
NEWCASTLE
LEICESTER
YORK
LINCOLN
CHESTER
NEWPORT
BLACKPOOL
OXFORD
WESTBURY
CAMBRIDGE
WARRINGTON
CREWE
Just a quick reminder on how things are looking........

More update should be followed hopefully tonight but definitely by tomorrow lunchtime

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 12:42 #18803
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if people are concentration... Manchester research completed with much thanks to Josie for help.

More research is undergoing and updates to follow as progress is made

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2012 Meets 31/07/2011 at 13:02 #18805
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As regards curry places in Manchester, I think I'll just leave this here... ;)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Curry_Mile

(It's not strictly in the city centre but it's only a short bus ride away. I'm looking into more central curry restaurants but there's not much can compare with the Curry Mile.)

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 06:17 #18833
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I think the comment regarding the south was that to get to Guildford (for example) from large parts of the UK would probably require a transfer across London, which could potentially add quite a hefty time onto any journey; not necessarily that it is inaccessible as such.
I think what the term meant by South being missed is except for London nothing is done where as other areas seem to have it all.. or at least that is my interrelation to it.
No, the comments (x2) were about not having a meet in the south, not about how to get there from elsewhere.

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Geoff I am sure you would be please to note that Liverpool is on the list (PAGE 3) and along with manchester.
I'm sure you'll be pleased to know I will consider the suggestions in terms of what is best for the majority of people. I would suggest you set up a Wiki page in the meets section where you can keep track of what's been suggested more easily.

Swindon is not easy to get to from even local areas so that should come off the list. Equally, Westbury is not great and the nearest pub is unsuitable with the next nearest a mile away - and not much in the way of accommodation either.

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 08:12 #18838
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set up a Wiki page in the meets section where you can keep track of what's been suggested more easily.

Swindon is not easy to get to from even local areas so that should come off the list. Equally, Westbury is not great and the nearest pub is unsuitable with the next nearest a mile away - and not much in the way of accommodation either.
Thanks for the tip Geoff

I will do so

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 08:47 #18839
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just a quick update for everyone....

under the meets section of wiki at the bottom is other options recently added.

This contains all the places suggested and their current outcomes.

Please note that at current all places researched only have basic scratch servicing done. I will get done to thorough research shortly.

Again Remember these are IDEAS and therefore final decision on the use of any of these places are NOT IN MY HANDS.... I am doing the research

Many Thanks for all those who have made suggestions.

Keep Them coming

Neil

p.s. just researched was Stevenage and found to be a no go (thanks to Luke Peters)

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 14:22 #18854
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Just my 2p's worth:

Chester and Crewe lack Real Ale pubs. the nearest being in Northwich. Also Vrewe has an unofficial visit in August to Exeter West

Shrewsbury might be suitable and considered as there are far better transport links.

I'll help some more once I'm back on normal internet.

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 14:30 #18856
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Just my 2p's worth:

Chester and Crewe lack Real Ale pubs. the nearest being in Northwich. Also Vrewe has an unofficial visit in August to Exeter West

Shrewsbury might be suitable and considered as there are far better transport links.

I'll help some more once I'm back on normal internet.
From memory isn't there a pub just outside of Shrewsbury station as you come out of the subway?

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 15:59 #18866
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I'd like to add Fort Wayne, Indiana to the list but sadly passenger rail services don;t exist even for those that live here, let alone from anywhere else!

And yes, you can get real ale....Look up Mad Anthonys or Granite City.....

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 17:32 #18870
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I'd like to add Fort Wayne, Indiana to the list but sadly passenger rail services don;t exist even for those that live here, let alone from anywhere else!

And yes, you can get real ale....Look up Mad Anthonys or Granite City.....
in that case i'll add cincinnati, ohio to the list too XD

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2012 Meets 01/08/2011 at 18:18 #18871
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Just my 2p's worth:

Chester and Crewe lack Real Ale pubs. the nearest being in Northwich. Also Vrewe has an unofficial visit in August to Exeter West

Shrewsbury might be suitable and considered as there are far better transport links.

I'll help some more once I'm back on normal internet.
Well a quick Google finds a number of pubs in the CW1 postcode area (centre of Crewe) selling proper beer (although admittedly none outside the station door)

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2012 Meets 02/08/2011 at 08:16 #18896
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Just my 2p's worth:

Chester and Crewe lack Real Ale pubs. the nearest being in Northwich. Also Vrewe has an unofficial visit in August to Exeter West

Shrewsbury might be suitable and considered as there are far better transport links.

I'll help some more once I'm back on normal internet.
Many thanks for these notes.

Great help and therefore I am now able to edit Chester and Crewe

Shrewsbury will be added

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I'd like to add Fort Wayne, Indiana to the list but sadly passenger rail services don;t exist even for those that live here, let alone from anywhere else!

And yes, you can get real ale....Look up Mad Anthonys or Granite City.....
in that case i'll add cincinnati, ohio to the list too XD
Much debate will always continue with this type of subject but unfortunately currently WILL NOT be added to the list

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