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| Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 19:49 #23452 | |
Sam Tugwell
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I occupied the track circuit TYM1 on the Exeter Sim and it came up with the 4 asterix (****) even though there was no train. Is this a bug? "Signalman Exeter" Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 19:54 #23453 | |
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Firefly
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No, it's prototypical. Whenever you get a TCF or the S&T drop track circuits you will get **** (Non Described). They are often associated with an NDA (non-Described Alarm) Kev Last edited: 21/11/2011 at 19:55 by Firefly Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Sam Tugwell, Hooverman |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 20:01 #23455 | |
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Danny252
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" said:4 asterixBut no Obelix? (You may have meant "asterisks" 
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 20:03 #23456 | |
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Sam Tugwell
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Thanks for Clearing that up Firefly. I did mean asterisks Danny. Not the best at spelling 
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 20:41 #23457 | |
Peter Bennet
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For the most part TD stepping is a function of a TC becoming occupied, it matters not how or why the TC became occupied. Hmm just thought does a TCF cause a berth step? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 20:46 #23458 | |
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AndyG
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If the TCF occurs in a trigger TC for an empty berth, depending on the berth stepping conditions, that berth could step the blank TD forward.
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 21/11/2011 at 21:06 #23461 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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" said:For the most part TD stepping is a function of a TC becoming occupied, it matters not how or why the TC became occupied. Hmm just thought does a TCF cause a berth step?If there is a description in one berth with the track circuit occupied for any reason, the signal applying to that berth is off and the next track circuit becomes occupied then the system will think there is a train there and the TD will step. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Sam Tugwell |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 19:53 #31364 | |
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Ben86
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I wanted to flag a related situation I have just encountered. Track Circuit TUM154 on the Up Main near Bridgwater has failed, and the asterixes have been inserted. However, further to this, I have received a 'Non-described train sent to fringe signalbox!' message and consequently been docked 10 points in the 'Other Points Lost' column! Fairly trivial I guess, but thought it was worth highlighting. Ben Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 19:58 #31365 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2078 posts |
If the TD is in a berth that can be seen at an adjacent box then you should get the non described train sent to external box message - after all, the signalman at that box will be straight on the phone to ask you "What train is that at signal x?" as he will conclude it is a train until told otherwise.
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 20:08 #31366 | |
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Ben86
126 posts |
Yes, you're right Stephen. I just thought it was a bit odd that SimSig would penalise the signaller for this. It's not really a problem. Ben Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 20:24 #31367 | |
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alan_s
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As a signaller, its your job to interpose the correct TD in place of the ****. It should be part and parcel of allowing the train to PSAD because of the TC failure!
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 20:26 #31369 | |
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sloppyjag
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SimSig penalises you for sending an undescribed train. It's just unfortunate that some failures recreate that scenario. Just like a failed track circuit over a level crossing may result in a points deduction for delaying road users. Not your fault but you get a penalty regardless, so tough luck. Personally, I haven't pressed the F5 button on a sim in years so don't really worry about scores. Planotransitophobic! Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 20:50 #31371 | |
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Ben86
126 posts |
Thanks for the responses. You're right sloppyjag, in that it's one of those unfortunate circumstances and the scores don't really matter. alan_s, to clarify, no train has actually passed in this situation and trying to interpose results in a 'Cannot interpose into external berth' message. Ben Log in to reply |
| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 07/04/2012 at 21:12 #31376 | |
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alan_s
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Ah, in that case Ben it's just unfortunate that the problem occurred somewhere that you had no control over.
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 08/04/2012 at 05:04 #31383 | |
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mfcooper
707 posts |
I'd actually forgotten that SimSig has a score function :dry:
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| Re: Small Niggle with Exeter 10/04/2012 at 02:27 #31435 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Most people paying attention to the score on a regular basis probably went out of the window along with the old paged layout. For those that do not remember, next to the time on the bottom left of the paged layout used to be the score, which if clicked brings up the analysis. The score is not displayed in scrolly unless you actually go looking for it. Perhaps an idea for an update to the core code some time, would be to find a way to re-introduce this sort of thing to the scrolly layout? Log in to reply |