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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 07/01/2013 at 02:36 #40303
BarryM
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2158 posts 		Hello James,

Have you analysed this latest timetable? (Tools 1 in Timetable List) There are 45 warnings.

I have also noticed that a number of trains listed have an entry time but no entry point as it forms another service. This time throws the Departure/Entry Time list out of sync. e.g. 2Y00.

Keep up the good work.
Barry
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 07/01/2013 at 02:54 #40304
BarryM
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2158 posts 		" said:
Hello Barry

Yes Indeed I was referring to 2K46 & 2K47 (there are a few others that ive discovered aswell)
I have updated manually, and now seems to be working :-)

Thanks!
Incidentally James, these amalgamations should have rules applied to them.

Barry
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 09/01/2013 at 20:11 #40366
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104 posts 		Underwood Wrote:

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Music listened to when creating, testing and tweaking this timetable:

- Heart FM (Wiltshire)
- Pink Floyd Live at Earls Court recording 1994
- Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Mood album (played a lot of times actually!)
- Scott Joplin Easy Winners
- SimCity 4 soundtrack (Jerry Martin)
- Steve Hackett Spectral Mornings
- Scientist Evil Curse of the Vampires album
- Coldplay (various tracks)
- Underworld Born Slippy
- Moby (various tracks)
This is an honest question - not rude thing. Why dowe need to know what music is litened to during the process of making the TT? I have seen a few that show this. Is it because it is recommending the music as it is good for this activity?
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 09/01/2013 at 20:30 #40367
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4869 posts 		" said:
Underwood Wrote:

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Music listened to when creating, testing and tweaking this timetable:

- Heart FM (Wiltshire)
- Pink Floyd Live at Earls Court recording 1994
- Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Mood album (played a lot of times actually!)
- Scott Joplin Easy Winners
- SimCity 4 soundtrack (Jerry Martin)
- Steve Hackett Spectral Mornings
- Scientist Evil Curse of the Vampires album
- Coldplay (various tracks)
- Underworld Born Slippy
- Moby (various tracks)
This is an honest question - not rude thing. Why dowe need to know what music is litened to during the process of making the TT? I have seen a few that show this. Is it because it is recommending the music as it is good for this activity?
It gives me suggestions of what to listen to when I'm bored :lol:
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 09/01/2013 at 21:13 #40368
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748 posts 		Barry - Are the warnings about departure times used at final destination? If so I'm leaving that as the format is a personal preference.

spadMAD - Sorry, got the idea from a magazine, that used to list what the owner was listening to whist editing the magazine (believe it was Pip from Railways Illustrated?)
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 09/01/2013 at 21:35 #40370
BarryM
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2158 posts 		" said:
Barry - Are the warnings about departure times used at final destination? If so I'm leaving that as the format is a personal preference.
James,

I have attached a copy of the analysis.

Barry
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 01/02/2013 at 07:47 #41039
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183 posts 		" said:
I have also noticed that a number of trains listed have an entry time but no entry point as it forms another service. This time throws the Departure/Entry Time list out of sync. e.g. 2Y00.

Adding to what Barry mentioned, there are trains such as 2Y00 and 2Y01 which have an entry time which is ahead of the time that would be expected for them to actually come into the sim.

For example, 2Y00 has an 00:07 entry time despite the train itself being formed from 5Y00 which is not scheduled to arrive at Welwyn Garden City until 04:05. Looking at the list now, I have just noticed that 2W77 and 2W90 also have this 00:07 entry time. I think these entry times should be 00:00. As what Barry was talking about, these entry times are affecting the Departure/Entry Time list.

In fact, looking even higher I see 2T88-1 and 2T88-2 which both have entry times of 00:07 (I think these are accurate) so I'd say the 00:07 entry time was erroniously copied onto 2Y00, 2W77 and 2W90.

What I have mentioned above also occurred to 2Y01 which has a 01:30 entry time. 2Y01 forms from run 5Y01 which isn't scheduled to arrive at Welwyn GC until 05:30.

TLDR version: Changing the entry times for 2Y00, 2Y01, 2W77 and 2W90 to 00:00 should fix it.
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 01/02/2013 at 07:55 #41040
BarryM
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2158 posts 		" said:
" said:
I have also noticed that a number of trains listed have an entry time but no entry point as it forms another service. This time throws the Departure/Entry Time list out of sync. e.g. 2Y00.

Adding to what Barry mentioned, there are trains such as 2Y00 and 2Y01 which have an entry time which is ahead of the time that would be expected for them to actually come into the sim.

For example, 2Y00 has an 00:07 entry time despite the train itself being formed from 5Y00 which is not scheduled to arrive at Welwyn Garden City until 04:05. Looking at the list now, I have just noticed that 2W77 and 2W90 also have this 00:07 entry time. I think these entry times should be 00:00. As what Barry was talking about, these entry times are affecting the Departure/Entry Time list.

In fact, looking even higher I see 2T88-1 and 2T88-2 which both have entry times of 00:07 (I think these are accurate) so I'd say the 00:07 entry time was erroniously copied onto 2Y00, 2W77 and 2W90.

What I have mentioned above also occurred to 2Y01 which has a 01:30 entry time. 2Y01 forms from run 5Y01 which isn't scheduled to arrive at Welwyn GC until 05:30.

TLDR version: Changing the entry times for 2Y00, 2Y01, 2W77 and 2W90 to 00:00 should fix it.
The author of the timetable is aware of these errors.

Barry
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Kings Cross August 2012 Weekday WTT 04/02/2013 at 03:12 #41129
BarryM
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2158 posts 		James,
A couple of inaccuracies cropped up whilst playing KX. I am not sure if you already have them.

2C60,62,64,66 and 1C39 need a path/line adjustment.

5L21 needs a through line stop on GL at Finsbury Park.

a great TT
Barry
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