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| Oops 01/05/2013 at 20:07 #44230 | |
Danny252
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" said:" said:Would he be? I thought drivers usually sat on the right (with the GWR usually going with left-hand drive), when facing "forwards" - which would put him on the same side as the signal in this case. Or have I gotten my sides mixed up?right in front of the driver's face!The driver would be seated on the side farthest from the signal and possibly not able to see it. However, if he has been "talked past it", it doesn't really matter if he can see it, or not. " said: We have here three bullet points obtained from another web site [..] Neither of which appear to be backed up by FACT.To be honest, I think most would agree that John Hinson is probably a far more reliable source than many. Log in to reply |
| Oops 01/05/2013 at 20:21 #44231 | |
northroad
872 posts |
Danny, You are joking of course......Drivers on the old LNER would be turning in their graves if you say the driver is on the right when facing forwards......and the last time I drove Flying Scotsman I was certainly left of centre..... Geoff Log in to reply |
| Oops 01/05/2013 at 20:31 #44233 | |
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vontrapp
210 posts |
On close inspection of the clip, there are 2 people on the footplate. Just as the train moves, a hand is seen, on the signal side of the cab. When it grinds to a halt, a head is seen in the left window as well as a person on the right-hand side
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| Oops 01/05/2013 at 20:45 #44234 | |
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TomOF
452 posts |
This has been quite widely debated across the various forums and honestly I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sure the traincrew feel bad enough without this trial by internet. I'm sure the truth of what happened will be revealed in time.
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| Oops 01/05/2013 at 22:15 #44235 | |
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vontrapp
210 posts |
I believe it to be a set-up but I may be wrong.  Tell-tail signs:A camera that is permanently in place to record the area, except at the end, when it is moved. A signalman whois lackadaisical who doesn't give any signal to the traincrew and doesn't set the traps correctly. No flagman at the signal. So who gave the signal to proceed, the guard? If I heard a long crow on the whistle, I'd be up at the SB window looking to see what's passing a signal at danger. If I was in hi-viz, like the fellow at the fence, I'd be assisting. If I was the signalman, I'd be down the steps, assisting. Something is amiss. I'm not criticising but making sense out of the situation, which doesn't make sense as a real error. Adrian Last edited: 01/05/2013 at 22:43 by vontrapp Log in to reply |
| Oops 02/05/2013 at 05:44 #44237 | |
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pilotman
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I agree it is a bit strange that the bobby doesn't burst out of his box door on hearing the derailment. Unlikely a flagman would be appointed for a single move of this type so close to the box - usually verbal authorisation. --- oh and the "crow" (cock-a-doodle doo) is a whistle code specific to starting a train with assistance in the rear. Log in to reply |
| Oops 02/05/2013 at 07:26 #44238 | |
jc92
3689 posts |
" said:I agree it is a bit strange that the bobby doesn't burst out of his box door on hearing the derailment.So noones allowing for him reacting to the shock of the situation, which in many cases causes people to freeze? He was probably too busy considering how many judgemental posts would be plastered over the internet that evening. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Temple Meads |
| Oops 02/05/2013 at 08:57 #44239 | |
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AndyG
1842 posts |
Thread locked - too much speculation.
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