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| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 04:16 #45375 | |
SPADmad
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My question is thus - I am going to see a train which is a engineering freight and it has a 'Train ID' of 87646O1A02. What does this mean and which mumbers and letter do you use to get the 0A00 style of headcode we as signallers see on the panel? All other info I can gie is its time at 60 miles an hour, and runs from Christs Hospital (near Horsham), to Paddock Wood Sidings near Tonbridge. Please Help! Log in to reply |
| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 05:02 #45377 | |
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John
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6Z08 07.00 Christs Hospital to Paddock Wood Siding is in Trust running today
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| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 05:10 #45378 | |
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SPADmad
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does thathave any relation to the train ID - is there any way of working that 6Z08 from its train ID?
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| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 06:41 #45379 | |
Peter Bennet
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Train details here. I thought you could get the TD from the ID but in this case it appears not. However, for passenger trains you can (from a random search). For example 862C09M602 is 2C09 (my emphasis). Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 02/06/2013 at 06:41 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 09:04 #45383 | |
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jwsetford
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that would be the UID I think
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| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 10:05 #45386 | |
Steamer
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" said:My question is thus - I am going to see a train which is a engineering freight and it has a 'Train ID' of 87646O1A02. What does this mean and which mumbers and letter do you use to get the 0A00 style of headcode we as signallers see on the panel?The first two numbers are the first two numbers of the STANOX code of the originating location. As these codes are grouped geographically, it gives a rough indication of where the train has come from. The next 4 characters are the headcode. If you've got it from RTT, it will have been scrambled. The 7th chracter shows what type of schedule it is. I think 1 means STP and M means WTT. The 8th character shows the time at which it left the originating station. 0= 00:00- 00:59, 1= 01:00- 01:59 and so on, until 6= 06:00- 06:59, A= 07:00- 07:29, B= 07:30- 07:59, and so on, until X= 18:30- 18:59, Y = 19:00- 19:59, Z= 20:00- 20:59, 7= 21:00- 21:59, 8= 22:00- 22:59 and 9= 23:00- 23:59. The 9th and 10th chacters refer to the day of the month the train runs on. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: mfcooper |
| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 10:15 #45387 | |
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mfcooper
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Steamer, thanks for that. I knew some of that information, but no-one ever seemed to know it all. Cheers. " said: If you've got it from RTT, it will have been scrambled.For those who do not know, Steamer is referring to Real Time Trains (Link). The train data that Network Rail release to developers, like RTT's developer Tom Cairns, anonymises non-passenger Train Descriptions/Headcodes and you need access to an internal system (Like John's TRUST access) to find out the real running number. If you look at the maps on Open Train Times (Link) you will see some Train Desciriptions in the format: Number, Number, Number, LetterThese are non-passenger trains with an anonymised headcode. In SPADmad's case, 6Z08 has been anonymised to 646O. Last edited: 02/06/2013 at 10:29 by mfcooper Log in to reply |
| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 11:09 #45389 | |
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jwsetford
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The problem with realtime trains is that you cant get freight ID's.
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| Train ID's - how do they work? 02/06/2013 at 11:17 #45390 | |
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mfcooper
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" said:The problem with realtime trains is that you cant get freight ID's.As I already said: " said: The train data that Network Rail release to developers [...] anonymises non-passenger Train Descriptions/Headcodes and you need access to an internal system (Like John's TRUST access) to find out the real running number.Because the Network Rail data feed does not give out the non-passenger headcodes, websites like RTT/OTT/etc can't display them. Last edited: 02/06/2013 at 11:19 by mfcooper Log in to reply |