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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 10:53 #46010
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141 posts 		hi all, im currently writing a timetable for the sheffield sim based on a tuesday in june todays info included on it upto the stage of putting frieght in, can anyone confirm the length of the following:

70 + Limestone (Tunstead - Drax and return)

average length of Container trains to from leeds/wilton?

the new aggregates flow to tinsley - Frieghtliner 66 +?
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 11:48 #46012
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Online 		Looking through some of my freight train loads books the length limit for Leeds FLT - Wilton FLT is 88 SLUs, which in metres is 564m in total. If you have downloaded the 'Length Calculator' created by Joe(jc92) & myself that will give you the length of locos plus the length of various container flats. If you know the type of wagons used on the other services you referred to in your post you will then be able to work out how many wagons you can have behind whichever loco you use be it a Cl.66 or Cl.70.
The Tunstead - Drax PS via Sheffield length limit is 55 SLUs, which is 352m.
The flow to Tinsley, where does that originate from? Then I might be able to give you a length limit for that. Looking through one loads book I have there are 2 length limits for Tinsley Yard(Avesta) one is 80 SLUs, which is 512m & the other is 65 SLUs which is 416m, so it really depends where at Tinsley the train is going to.
Also remember the length in metres includes the length of the loco as well.
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 11:53 #46013
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Online 		Further to the above post, the length limit on freightliner trains from Southampton MCT - Leeds FLT is 68 SLUs, which is 436m, roughly 20 container flats plus loco. But to be accurate you need to state where the train originates from as the length limits will be subject to the originating location & the route the train is booked to run. Trains originating at other parts of the country heading to Leeds or Wilton FLTs may not be the same length as trains from Southampton MCT.
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 13:13 #46017
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141 posts 		cheers for the info the tinsley stone is a new service was running as 6z03 now 6m01 to from bardon hill to tinslay aggregates (a new terminal for building work in sheffield)

container trains appear to be

Southampton - leeds
wakefield europort - Soton W Docks Berth 109

appears felixstowe/and to wilton don't go this way,

however, couple more questions are:

Earles - west thurrock - FL operated
and DBS coal trains to from Earles Sidings?

thanks for all the help so far
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 13:23 #46018
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699 posts 		" said:
Earles - west thurrock - FL operated

6M90 - the back working off 6L89 - was 328m this morning (Cl66 + 19 JPAs).
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 13:32 #46021
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Online 		The loads books I have stae the maximum length limit for Southampton - Leeds is 68 SLUs(incl. loco) which is 436m.
Where does the coal train to Earles originate from & does it run with 2 axle MEA wagons or bogie HTA wagons?
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 14:00 #46023
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141 posts 		i believe its return working is 4v01 to margam for the coal
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 14:17 #46026
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Online 		Then its worked with HTA bogie hoppers as they would be Cl.4 (75mph empty). The best limit I can give you is from the most recent loads book I've got which is 1997 & that is 51 SLUs for Earles Sdgs, which is 327m.
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 14:19 #46027
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141 posts 		thankyou for all your help the hard work starts now then, also thankyou for the calculator a great helpful spreadsheet
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Sheffield TT june 2013 25/06/2013 at 14:37 #46030
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Online 		if you can give me the headcodes, and times for each one, i can go and observe them for you? equally my mate lives overlooking heeley goods loop and could probably check for you.

PM me if interested.
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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Sheffield TT june 2013 27/06/2013 at 00:58 #46077
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141 posts 		whem i get abit more time rsther than early morning ill pm you could be a massive help thank you
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Sheffield TT june 2013 27/06/2013 at 13:41 #46087
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456 posts 		The Earles-Drax/West burton flyash is loco (often 70) plus 23 PCA.

I'm fairly certain the Southampton-Leeds liners run more than 20 flats now (more like 24).

The Earles coal used to be 18 HTA (3 sets of 6) with the buffer fitted wagons for tripping up the branch.

Also note that the Northern units are on revised diagrams due to the Hatfield block - some more revised than you might think!
God bless, Daniel Wilson
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Sheffield TT june 2013 05/04/2014 at 06:15 #58423
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22 posts 		Hi Stanyon,


Did you ever get this timetable finished?

Would be great to have an up-to-date WTT for Sheffield.



Cheers

Dave.
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Sheffield TT june 2013 28/08/2014 at 13:29 #64188
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268 posts 		Have problem with this timetable on Sheffield platform 1, put details. Train 1E62 arrives to Sheffield platform 1 and uncouple 5E62.
Wait 1E62 departure, done same send loco 0E62S wich is in siding to join with 5E62. But join isn't executed. Proved several actions getting negative result. Continues without join action. Ignore why both parts don't couple correctly. Thanks.
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