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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 13:10 #348 | |
jimgos2005
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I was at above location this morning and saw a train being pulled by 2 EWS locos the carriages were like the orient express cariages I was wondering if anyone out there has any ideas as to what this train was/is the time is passed was about 09:45ish any help please will be well apprechiated.
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 13:10 #4815 | |
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jimgos2005
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I was at above location this morning and saw a train being pulled by 2 EWS locos the carriages were like the orient express cariages I was wondering if anyone out there has any ideas as to what this train was/is the time is passed was about 09:45ish any help please will be well apprechiated.
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 13:26 #4816 | |
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jimgos2005
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I forgot to mention in above message that the train in question was heading in the UP direction.
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 14:43 #4817 | |
Peter Bennet
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There have bee a few excursions to Lincoln this week, may have been stock for one of them. There was an A4 at Ferme Park for yesterday's train. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 14:48 #4818 | |
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jimgos2005
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Thanks Peter, If it was what you mentioned how would get to Lincoln would it go by Camden Road then Primrose Hill then on to wWembley Main control from there obviously routed onto fast line. Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 15:16 #4819 | |
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ledgero2
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sounds like the Northern Belle (similar thing to the Orient Express). a rake of coaches and 2 DBS (EWS) class 67s
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 15:30 #4821 | |
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Peter Bennet
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jimgos2005 said:Thanks Peter,ECML to either Peterborough or Newark, then across to Lincoln. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 16:40 #4823 | |
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jrr
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This must be the rake I saw the back end of at Peterborough at platform 4 recently - early one morning - I think c. 7.35 last Saturday but maybe 9.30ish Sunday. [Only a quick glanece driving across the road bridge] jrr Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 20:47 #4828 | |
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Peter Bennet
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I've since seen it reported that the VSOE passed through Welwyn at around 10.20 this moring going North. 67002 and 67008 front and rear respecively. Report does not say where it was going, but I believe Lincoln for the Christmas fayre. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 21:24 #4830 | |
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Noisynoel
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Hmm, there was 1Z82 08:45 Victoria - Lincoln with the VSOE which called at Finsbury Park 09:47 - 09:48, however, it was a down train not an Up. I can't see any record of anything on the Up.
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 21:31 #4831 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Noel, That makes more sense to me, did seem rather tight for a UP train to get to KX and back to Welwyn in the times given. Petet I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 21:32 #4832 | |
ajax103
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Peter Bennet said:jimgos2005 said:Normally anything via Lincoln goes off the ECML after Newark, I've not heard of many charters going via Spalding.Thanks Peter,ECML to either Peterborough or Newark, then across to Lincoln. I believe this is also the intended route (London to Lincoln via Newark) of the East Coast Lincolns in December 2010. Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 04/12/2009 at 23:31 #4834 | |
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JamesN
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Am I right in thinking you could also come off at Grantham, round the Allington Chord and then hook a left at Sleaford and thence Up to Lincoln?
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 05/12/2009 at 00:49 #4836 | |
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Adrian the Rock
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JamesN said:Am I right in thinking you could also come off at Grantham, round the Allington Chord and then hook a left at Sleaford and thence Up to Lincoln? Not without reversing at Sleaford. Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 05/12/2009 at 12:25 #4848 | |
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JamesN
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Ah yes *looks in SA*, my mental map of Sleaford was wrong way round.
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 09:59 #4879 | |
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jimgos2005
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Hi People, Thanks for the help I actually cocked up the train was going in the down direction. Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 12:44 #4880 | |
Chrisrail
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Think you will find it is the Northern Belle
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 13:23 #4882 | |
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Forest Pines
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ajax103 said:There was at one time a suggestion that someone wanted to run London-Lincoln and London-Grimsby via Spalding to avoid ECML pathing problems - this was possibly at the time that various train operators were going to court over the availability of ECML paths. London-Grimsby via Spalding was dependant on the Lincoln resignalling, because the old layout of Pelham St Jn didn't allow trains to reverse in service at Lincoln. Either idea would be a very slow and trundly trip. Back in the day, of course, trains could turn off the ECML at Barkston and run straight to Lincoln via Navenby et al; that was before the Newark chord was built, in any case. Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 14:00 #4883 | |
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Peter Bennet
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I think it was the GN franchise holder (WAGN?) that was talking about a Lincoln via Spalding service at one time. There is now an EMT St Pancras to Lincoln service (via Newark castle I presume)- not sure what the frequency is. I believe there is a Draft December 2010 ECML timetable somewhere that has a KX- Lincoln service in it. ECT website refers to it but the link just goes to the home page of the OOR's site and I gave up at that point as the search did not produce anything useful. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 14:09 #4884 | |
postal
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The most recent draft of the Dec 2010 ECML TT I can find (dated 16/10/09) is at http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/ecml-nr-scl2-timetable-161009.pdf .
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| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 14:50 #4887 | |
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Peter Bennet
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That's the ones, thanks. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Strange Train Passing Finsbury Park This Morning. 07/12/2009 at 15:52 #4891 | |
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ozzyd9001
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until they lost the franchise nxec was going to run a reguler servise from kx to lincoln with alternate hours going to grimsby via spalding to lincoln with reverse at lincoln. i belive network rail are busy upgradeing the old joint line and signaling to come under the new box at lincoln. on the grapevin i have herd the speed limits are being revised but cannot confirm maybe some one else has more yours paul Log in to reply |