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| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 19:48 #51365 | |
Danny252
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Having been going through the various NR data feeds recently has shown me how common extra moves, such as Tampers, Engineers and extra LEs are, so it would be nice to throw in a few to spruce up timetables. However, I have absolutely no idea what headcodes these sort of moves run under! Will they run as "Z"s, or be given suitable headcodes for their destination, or both? Pascal's list of LE headcodes on the wiki shows a mix of both being used in the Western/Midland regions (a more complete list would of course be nice, but that requires someone having the info...). If running under Z headcodes, what digits are acceptable, as I know some are reserved? (I can't for the life of me find any of the lists I've seen before!) What class do tampers and other on-track plant run as? Just a freight headcode corresponding to their speed? Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 19:52 #51367 | |
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Late Turn
699 posts |
Most tampers or other machines, in our area (Midland) at least, seem to run as 6Uxx or 6Jxx, but I've never really stopped to think about it! Likewise, engineering trains mostly seem to run as 6Gxx - in all cases, the same applying even to inter-regional trains. Edit: missed your last bit. The first character does indeed reflect their maximum speed, so mostly 6s and (less so) 7s. VSTP light locos are sometimes quite imaginative: 0Z31 or 0Z56, for example, occasionally giving a clue as to the traction involved! Last edited: 11/11/2013 at 19:56 by Late Turn Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 20:24 #51368 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
Yeah, 6J was what was coming to mind, but nice to know there's some variation! Another one which I just thought up! Test Trains run variously as 1Q/3Q. What does the first number indicate - NMT versus other, slower test trains? However, I'm sure I've heard of non-NMT trains running under 1Q headcodes... Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 20:31 #51369 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
Some areas also have special headcodes for certain types of moves. For instance down in Cardiff light Class 59s are always described as 0Z59, locomotives shunting towards another box are 0Z16.
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| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 20:51 #51371 | |
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Late Turn
699 posts |
" said:Yeah, 6J was what was coming to mind, but nice to know there's some variation! Indeed, we certainly have some non-NMT 1Qxx trains - probably more than we do 3Qxx. No idea what the difference is though! 2Qxx (usually 2Q08?) invariably proves to be (one of?) the converted ex-150 units. Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 11/11/2013 at 20:57 #51372 | |
onlydjw
456 posts |
I understand that many of the tampers/OTP/grinders etc have reserved headcodes for the specific item of plant. Here is a list that I have (not complete): 6J01-DR73930 6J02-DR73936 6J03-DR999800 6J04-DR999801 6J06-DR73917 6J07-DR73938 6J08-DR73939 6J09-DR72211 6J10-DR73276 6J12-DR73257 6J14-DR77908 6J15-DR73266 6J23-DR73918 6J24-DR73943 6J25-DR73944 6J26-DR73945 6J27-DR73926 6J28-DR73927 6J29-DR73928 6J30-DR73937 6J31-DR75303 6J32-DR75402 6J33-DR75404 6J34-DR77801 6J35-DR77802 6J36-DR75301 6J37-DR75302 6J38-DR75401 6J39-DR73924 6J40-DR73936 6J41-DR73925 6J42-DR73935 6J43-DR73108 6J44-DR73905 6J45-DR73911 6J46-DR73922/73906 6J47-DR73920/21 6J48-DR73922? 6J49-DR75408 6J51-DR73941/32 6J54-DR73109 6J55-DR73940 6J56-DR75409 6J58-DR75410 6J60-DR73908 6J61-DR75411 6J62-DR73947 6J63-DR73948 6J64-DR73946 6J67-DR73110 6J71-DR75405 6J72-DR73909 6J73-DR73942 6J74-DR73946 6J91-DR73913 6J98-DR77001 6J99-DR77002 6Q66-DR75501 6Q68-DR75502 6U01-DR79261/71 6U02-DR79262/72 6U03-DR79263/73 6U04-DR79264/74 6U12-DR73114 6U20-DR80200 6U21-DR80201 6U22-DR80202 6U23-DR80203 6U24-DR80204 6U25-DR80205 6U26-DR80206 6U27-DR80207 6U28-DR80208 6U29-DR80209 6U30-DR80210 6U31-DR80211 6U32-DR80212 6U33-DR80213 6U34-DR80214 6U35-DR80215 6U36-DR80216 6U37-DR80217 6U40-DR80301 6U41-DR80302 6U42-DR80303 6U43-DR73116 6U44-DR77906 6U48-DR73117 6Z01-DR79231-7 6Z02-DR79241-7 6Z03-DR79251-7 God bless, Daniel Wilson Log in to reply The following users said thank you: bfcmik, sorabain |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 12/11/2013 at 15:33 #51417 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
" said:" said:Aha, so I wasn't imagining things when I spotted a 2XXX running as a freight...Yeah, 6J was what was coming to mind, but nice to know there's some variation! " said: I understand that many of the tampers/OTP/grinders etc have reserved headcodes for the specific item of plant. Here is a list that I have (not complete): [snip]Excellent! Now I can really have some fun throwing random ones in. Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 12/11/2013 at 15:38 #51418 | |
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headshot119
4869 posts |
Just on a pedantic note, the class 950 is a one off and was never converted from a 150, it was purpose built.
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| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 12/11/2013 at 19:15 #51438 | |
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Ron_J
331 posts |
Babcock Rail run their machines with the following headcodes in Scotland: 6T40 - DR73803 6T46 - DR73932 6T47 - DR73933 6J51 - DR73941 The TRU (950001) does indeed run permanently as 2Q08 throughout the network. The weed killing MPV always runs as 6Z06 in Scotland, while internal Scottish engineer's workings are given headcodes in the 6Kxx range. Shunts between boxes on TCB lines in Scotland are typically described as 0L99, the requirement for this is shown in the relevant signalbox special instructions. Log in to reply |
| Headcodes for Tampers, Engineering Trains, Light Engines... 13/11/2013 at 09:47 #51469 | |
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onlydjw
456 posts |
950001 can and does run as 2Z08 if not recording (many test trains run as xZxx when not recording).
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