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| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 17:10 #52483 | |
Javelin395
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Have just given the demo mode of West Hamstead a go with a view to making a purchase. However, everything such as route setting and calling up a TT is noticeably lagging between my mouse clicks and the computer responding. I don't think it is a PC issue as none of the donationware sims I have suffer from this problem. Is this something to do with the fact it's in demo mode ? It's putting me off purchasing if I can't be sure the sim will run smoothly. Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 17:14 #52484 | |
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John
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I have all of the payware sims, but I have not encountered any of the problems you describe. Purchase with confidence, Javelin, you won't regret it! West Hampstead has fast become my new favourite sim! Plus Geoff needs your money, else there'll be no Christmas for tiny Tim this year! Last edited: 06/12/2013 at 17:30 by John Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 19:51 #52494 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
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I Have the same issue it's very laggy, has put me off getting it because its frustrating to run like that, its the only sim that is like it, I went for fenchurch street in the end. All other big sims seem fine eg kings x etc so would have thought it would run without problems. My specs are. Processor AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series Gaming graphics 2815 MB Total available graphics memory Primary hard disk 380GB Free (931GB Total) System -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Model M68MT-S2P Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM System type 64-bit operating system Number of processor cores 4 Storage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total size of hard disk(s) 931 GB Disk partition (C  380 GB Free (931 GB Total) Media drive (D CD/DVD Graphics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display adapter type AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series Total available graphics memory 2815 MB Dedicated graphics memory 1024 MB Dedicated system memory 0 MB Shared system memory 1791 MB Display adapter driver version 9.2.0.0 Primary monitor resolution 1680x1050 DirectX version DirectX 10 Network -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Network Adapter TP-LINK 300Mbps Mini Wireless N USB Adapter Running windows 7. Rich Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 19:53 #52495 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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West Hamstead is a very large sim - I do not know of one that is bigger. It certainly takes far longer to load than any other for me Could your computer be lagging somehow. Possibly on power saver settings or similar? I would agree with John about the quality of this sim, it is very good. Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 20:03 #52496 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
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Theres nothing like that on my system that's switched on, I can run big games on these specs, I haven't seen anyone report this until now, it would be interesting to see the specs of the original poster to see if we have anything in common like processor type or something. My computer is fine with all other software, its just this seem which is a shame because I was looking forward to this one, but for me its un playable at the moment unless theres a fix. Demo mode has expired for me so I cannot test anymore. Rich Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 20:20 #52498 | |
GeoffM
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King's Cross is comparable to West Hampstead: Sim: WH/KX BER: 478/493 CMD: 16/17 ENT: 41/36 EXT: 3/3 FLG: 43/31 FRM: 7/9 LOC: 126/119 LX: 0/0 MIS: 1/1 NSC: 13/15 PEL: 2176/2111 PTS: 364/372 ROU: 756/702 SIG: 654/655 SHP: 79/66 SLT: 7/4 TCS: 979/1016 VAR: 1/16 WKS: 4/5 There was an issue reported with the demo on payware sims being slow when the user didn't have any payware sims on their PC, which is being investigated. I don't think anybody has reported lagging with a paid version. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 20:35 #52499 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
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Thank you for the reply Geoff, I have purchased Fenchurch street (Excellent sim)and the liscence for that is installed on the same machine, and west hampstead still lags, If I redownloaded the demo of west hampstead, will the sim still give me the Demo expired message? if so I still won't be able to see if it works, West hampstead demo was installed before I purchased Fenchurch street. Its a strange problem because all other sims run as intended. Rich Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 20:49 #52500 | |
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Javelin395
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Since my initial post in this thread I have tried the other payware demos. They all exhibit lagging to some extent so I don't think it is a sim size or PC issue. As such I would tend to agree with Geoff's post.
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| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 20:51 #52501 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
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Any chance of some system specs? I only have a problem with this sim, I would like to compare against another machine?
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| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 21:05 #52502 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
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Just managed to try out something it seems 2009 mode has a problem the others seem ok. Rich Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 06/12/2013 at 21:05 #52503 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:Any chance of some system specs? I only have a problem with this sim, I would like to compare against another machine?Afraid I can't give you much to go on as I wouldn't have a clue how / where to find the sort of detailed info you list. I'm using a Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop with an Intel Core i3 processor at 2.1GHz and 4GB RAM. Windows 7Pro SP1 64-bit OS. Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 07/12/2013 at 02:11 #52509 | |
pedroathome
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If you are running Windows Vista, 7 or 8, possibly also XP (Not sure, it's been a while there), if you goto start, right click on Computer, Manage, and there you will see a bit that says SYSTEM, where it will tell you what your processor is, your OS & amount of RAM installed James Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 07/12/2013 at 07:20 #52512 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:If you are running Windows Vista, 7 or 8, possibly also XP (Not sure, it's been a while there), if you goto start, right click on Computer, Manage, and there you will see a bit that says SYSTEM, where it will tell you what your processor is, your OS & amount of RAM installed Apologies if I'm missing something here James but I thought that is exactly the info I posted above? I was meaning that I wouldn't have a clue how to find out my HDD and video card details. Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 28/01/2014 at 13:12 #54367 | |
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Javelin395
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Recently took the plunge and purchased a licence for West Hampstead. Pleased to report licence issued without any hitches and the sim is an absolute joy (no lagging that I had experienced in the demo mode). Thanks to the developers for this masterpiece and to Geoff for making the licensing process straightforward for IT numpties like me !! I thought Kings Cross was manic but West Hampstead is currently unplayable for me at normal speeds. I had no idea the MML was so busy. I used to visit all the major London terminii as a kid back in the late 70s and always thought St Pancras was boring because nothing much seemed to come and go !! I look forward to some more TT's that take advantange of the different eras. We need one of 58050's excellent 1980's TT. Have also made a donation to KX as this is the sim I always seem to come back to. That said, West Hampstead is fast becoming a favourite too (but then I'm biased as living in Sheffield the MML is my home turf). Am I correct in thinking that once Derby has been released then that just leaves Leicester and then we would have the entire MML. That would be a chain and a half. Last edited: 28/01/2014 at 13:12 by Javelin395 Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 28/01/2014 at 13:32 #54369 | |
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John
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" said:I look forward to some more TT's that take advantange of the different eras. We need one of 58050's excellent 1980's TT.Will a 1991-1992 one do? http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=14&id=36498&Itemid=0#52540 Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 28/01/2014 at 13:37 #54370 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:I'm certainly not going to complain... but I would like to see a TT before the Peaks were displaced by HSTs. Last edited: 28/01/2014 at 13:37 by Javelin395 Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 28/01/2014 at 14:02 #54373 | |
58050
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A West Hampstead timetable before the 'Peaks' were displaced is going to be quite difficult to do wihouta St. Pancras station working book to get the platforming absolutely correct. I recently obtained a 1989 St. Pancras/King's Cross Thameslink/Moorgate station working book for 1989 & that timetable is currently being written for me as I haven't got the time to do it myself & is being written by another SimSig user. The 1991-1992 timetable you mention is nearly all but complete & awaiting the developer to fix a problem before I can add the last half a dozen or so trains to it to finish it off. The 1991-1992 timetable is extremely busy during the morning & evening peak periods. The other issues you may find is that the era doesn't go back far enough for a 1970s timetable.
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| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 01:24 #54451 | |
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MrBitsy
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" said:I worked panel 3 at WHPSB today and I sure wish I could have slowed it down to half speed!  :whistle:
TVSC Link 4 signaller - Temple Meads, Bath & Stoke Gifford Last edited: 29/01/2014 at 01:24 by MrBitsy Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Javelin395 |
| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 08:52 #54468 | |
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Javelin395
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Well, if that's what the pros say working just the one panel then I guess I'm not doing too bad. Still, I also had the advantage of TORR. Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 10:13 #54474 | |
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kbarber
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[quote="Javelin395" post=54367 I thought Kings Cross was manic but West Hampstead is currently unplayable for me at normal speeds. I had no idea the MML was so busy. I used to visit all the major London terminii as a kid back in the late 70s and always thought St Pancras was boring because nothing much seemed to come and go !![/quote] St Pancras was indeed a lot quieter in the 1970s than it is now. But I certainly wouldn't say it was boring - if you were working Finchley Road in the peak you were on the frame continuously for about three hours (and the train recorder was kept hard at it too) and Cricklewood needed two signalmen and a train recorder to keep it going. I never saw St Pancras in the peak but when I did visit the constant movement of engines that had brought trains in ('bankers', as they were called) made for a steady workload, added to which the potential to stuff up the whole job by calling a wrong route into the right platform was a perpetual headache. Great days, with a vastly more difficult layout... folk these days don't know they're born. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Javelin395 |
| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 10:49 #54475 | |
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58050
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Don't forget Keith the variety in the job was alot better then than today. When I was on the footplate at St. Pancras in 1985/1986 there was still the newspaper trains running & after the evening peak St. Pancras had about 4 newspaper/parcels trains for the north in the platforms as well as some HSTs & units. Prior o the HSTs & electrification you also had Cambridge Street servicing depot where the locos would go for fuel & running repairs. Anything more serious went to Cricklewood TMD. Happy days. Come back all is forgiven.
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| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 11:50 #54480 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:Don't forget the variety in the job was alot better then than today. That's why I'm such a fan of your 'heritage' TTs. The service back then wasn't as intensive as today but this is usually offset by the variety of traffic and need for loco run-rounds. Hence my desire to see a West Hampstead TT before HST's displaced the Peaks (but I note your earlier post about the difficulty of doing one). Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 12:00 #54482 | |
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58050
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Glad you like them. I'm not interested in modern era period. 1977-1996 is the period I work with. There's a number of heritage timetables I have written for forth coming sims currently under development & have just started another which is by far the biggest & will probably take the nest part of 12 months to write all the data. DON'T ASK ME WHAT AS i AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO SAY.
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| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 12:07 #54484 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:[quote="Javelin395" post=54367St Pancras was indeed a lot quieter in the 1970s than it is now. But I certainly wouldn't say it was boring - if you were working Finchley Road in the peak you were on the frame continuously for about three hours (and the train recorder was kept hard at it too) and Cricklewood needed two signalmen and a train recorder to keep it going. I never saw St Pancras in the peak but when I did visit the constant movement of engines that had brought trains in ('bankers', as they were called) made for a steady workload, added to which the potential to stuff up the whole job by calling a wrong route into the right platform was a perpetual headache. Great days, with a vastly more difficult layout... folk these days don't know they're born.[/quote] I dare say there was plenty to keep the signalmen interested but remember I was a young lad back then and wanted to watch plenty of trains coming and going. Also, given my age I would be accompanied by my dad so it would invariably have been a weekend (no rush hour). Furthermore, since we'd be doing the rounds of the major London terminii I'd be comparing St Pancras to the likes of Paddington and Euston. That said, even Kings Cross just next door (and which was of roughly similar size in terms of number of platforms) always had more than enough action to keep my attention. Maybe the constant moves in / out of the adjacent loco sidings helped in this respect. And then there was the unmistakable throb of a deltic - you just can't beat that !! Log in to reply |
| West Hamstead Demo 29/01/2014 at 12:10 #54486 | |
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Javelin395
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" said:Glad you like them. I'm not interested in modern era period. 1977-1996 is the period I work with. There's a number of heritage timetables I have written for forth coming sims currently under development & have just started another which is by far the biggest & will probably take the nest part of 12 months to write all the data. DON'T ASK ME WHAT AS i AM NOT AT LIBERTY TO SAY. Now that is just plain teasing me... still, I look forward to the surprise whenever that may be !! Log in to reply |