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Forthcoming Timetables 05/11/2013 at 20:59 #50681
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A Western in Scunthorpe? Exotic!
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Forthcoming Timetables 08/11/2013 at 12:41 #51023
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In response to the updates to the Loader sims with regards to seeding of trains and dwell times etc, over the next few weeks I'll be updating my Brighton April 2012 timetable to be Loader compatible

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Forthcoming Timetables 06/01/2014 at 19:52 #53627
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Exeter weekday 2013 is currently being tested to iron out any discrepancies & when this is sorted a Whiteball Tunnel block timetable will be started, once I can get the information from work (unit allox/final STP schedules/freight moves etc etc.)

Also in the pipeline are a couple of pre-privatisation t/t's for Exeter, which will be commenced in the fullness of time, when I am not required to help the real network operate

When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Forthcoming Timetables 06/01/2014 at 21:09 #53628
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[.....] when this is sorted a Whiteball Tunnel block timetable will be started, once I can get the information from work (unit allox/final STP schedules/freight moves etc etc.) [.....]

I am already onto the case with a Whiteball Block TT for Monday 20-Jan-2014. So far I have 181 trains written into it but I do have some gaps as I am unsure as to some of the movemenets planned. Check your PMs: I may ask a favour.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 06/01/2014 at 22:28 #53632
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I am currently doing a 2013 timetable for London Liverpool Street[ 10% complete] and a 2013 timetable for Liverpool Lime Street[ 80% complete]. Using the Liverpool Lime Street 2013 timetable as a test bed for rules etc as I only had a small dabble with the rules on the 2013 Carlisle sim. Also will be updating the 2013 timetable for Carlisle with the feed back recieved regarding need for rules and any other issues that come to light.
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Forthcoming Timetables 06/01/2014 at 22:43 #53634
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In between writing timetables for developers, I have already started writing a May - October 1985 timetable for the new loader version of King's Cross with a possible further timetable covering the period October 1985 - May 1986. No release date on these as I'm only working on them at weekends as the whole of the week is taken up writing & testing timetables for developers & there forth coming sims.
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Forthcoming Timetables 06/01/2014 at 22:54 #53635
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" said:
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[.....] when this is sorted a Whiteball Tunnel block timetable will be started, once I can get the information from work (unit allox/final STP schedules/freight moves etc etc.) [.....]

I am already onto the case with a Whiteball Block TT for Monday 20-Jan-2014. So far I have 181 trains written into it but I do have some gaps as I am unsure as to some of the movemenets planned. Check your PMs: I may ask a favour.

Dave
Ah a MO T/T, am doing a midweek T/T, so we can have different days of operation. Anything you need give me a shout, as long as it doesn't collapse at work, I cannot forsee a problem

When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Forthcoming Timetables 07/01/2014 at 16:12 #53645
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OK, I shall reveal my plans:
A 2014/2015 Waterloo TT (With a twist...)
A 2014/2015 Bristol TT

Which TT would people like to see first and are there any other requests?
Happy Signalling!

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Forthcoming Timetables 12/01/2014 at 11:59 #53803
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Currently working on a Saturday timetable for Soton using the Summer 2014 timetable.
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Forthcoming Timetables 12/01/2014 at 12:19 #53804
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my suggestions
Brighton January 2014 with the current blockages.
Marylebone Boxing Day 2013.
I look forward to ones being written.

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Forthcoming Timetables 12/01/2014 at 13:25 #53809
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Okay update time:

The three Exeter timetables already released (Summer Saturday 1985,Summer Sunday 1985 and Summer Sunday 1980) are going through the works at the moment for the new loader version of Exeter.Mainly a few tweaks and seeding services etc.

Partially constructed is Bristol Summer Sunday 1991

Gloucester July 1980 (weekdays) No change on this. About half way through this.

Also works in progress:-


Trent Summer Saturday 1991 Long term project.Ground work done.

Trent Metro Fictional (this was going to be 2011 but now renamed). About 3/4 done.


The Exeter "refurbished" tt's should be ready soon (ish). I then plan on getting the Trent Metro done. The others are really longer term projects.

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Forthcoming Timetables 12/01/2014 at 18:41 #53825
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im going to look at doing boxing day on chiltern, also could do with a tester for my First complete timetable which is fictional for lancing with services every 20 mins and engineers services overnight if intreasted pm me only need a couple of testers though
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Forthcoming Timetables 19/01/2014 at 23:39 #54032
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A quick update regarding my Whiteball Blockade (20th January) TT for Exeter.

I have done so much time at work recently that I have not been able to get the TT finished and tested in time for release on the date in question. I hope to get the whole thing finished soon, albeit without any freight trains: I will need help on those.

As for what remains to be done, I have a couple of trains to put in on the Paignton route: once that is done I will have nearly everything written in that runs between Exeter St. Davids, Plymouth and Penzance. Once that is done I will have to turn my attentions to trains running to / from Taunton: so far I have only done the services to / from London Paddington so that leaves the CrossCountry trains plus the local stoppers between Taunton, Bristol TM and Cardiff Central.

The TT currently has 292 trains in it (as of 11:30pm on Sunday 19th January) which makes it the biggest TT I have built in my time on SimSig. This total includes no less than 81 ECS (5xxx) moves. This could be good when finished, which will hopefully be within the next couple of weeks.

The release of this TT will coincide with the launch, either on the date or soon after, of a website that I will use to make available notes for all SimSig TTs that I create. More on this soon.

Cheers,
Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 13:40 #54051
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January 2014, Carlisle with diversions off east coast
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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 14:48 #54058
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A work-in-progress update: I've finished the data entry on my South Humberside and Worksop October 2013 timetables and they're going through initial testing. Data entry work has started on the matching Sheffield October 2013 timetable, but only about 50 out of 750 trains are currently in.
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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 15:37 #54059
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" said:
In response to the updates to the Loader sims with regards to seeding of trains and dwell times etc, over the next few weeks I'll be updating my Brighton April 2012 timetable to be Loader compatible

Gareth
Having been distracted by the shiny news sims (esp Marylebone) I hope to get back on track (no pun intended) with updating my Brighton 2012 this week. Like some others I have found it easier to start afresh with it rather than going in to and altering each train

Gareth

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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 17:56 #54064
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I've begun writing a 4 day Bristol Timetable for April 2014, currently about 25% through.
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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 18:04 #54065
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I have done so much time at work recently that I have not been able to get the TT finished and tested in time for release on the date in question. I hope to get the whole thing finished soon, albeit without any freight trains: I will need help on those.
Freight trains at Cowley Bridge, Taunton and Exeter St. David's on 20th January. Sorry, I can't help with Headcodes or consists. Trains with bold times next to them actually ran.

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Forthcoming Timetables 20/01/2014 at 23:57 #54071
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Thanks Steamer. I took a look off the road overbridge at Tiverton Parkway this afternoon and could see a stationary engineering train on the southbound line. Looked it up on RTT and couldn't find it.

I could see the northern, but not the southern, end of the train in question but it looked to be several trains close together and laden with what looked like enough ballast to last several days worth of engineering work.

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Forthcoming Timetables 21/01/2014 at 04:44 #54076
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Remember that RTT only stores data in a publicly-accessible way for up to 8 days (7*24 hours plus the remainder of the day) after the train ran. So if you're looking at a specific day, it's probably worth taking down all the data in some way.
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Forthcoming Timetables 21/01/2014 at 19:54 #54085
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Freight trains at Cowley Bridge, Taunton and Exeter St. David's on 20th January. Sorry, I can't help with Headcodes or consists. Trains with bold times next to them actually ran.
Just to add to Steamers post:

Don't have all the info but I've gleaned a few headcodes here. The first code is the RTT code with the respective head code following.The timing loads are then shown.

Cowley bridge 653D = 6W09 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
610G = 6W10 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
688G = 6??? Colas Probably a tamper as the load is "locomotive" and tampers often stable in the Premier Transport sdg.
649M = 6W08 DBS 600 tons 60 mph
650M = 6W07 DBS 1800 tons 60mph

Taunton 692E = 6A07 FLR 2400 tons 60 mph
637M = 6??? FLR No load quoted.

Exeter SD 633E = 6Z10 Colas 2020 tons 60 mph
007R = 0Z11 Colas 60 mph was 6Z11
688G as Cowley Bridge

Hope this helps.

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Forthcoming Timetables 22/01/2014 at 00:36 #54093
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Remember that RTT only stores data in a publicly-accessible way for up to 8 days (7*24 hours plus the remainder of the day) after the train ran. So if you're looking at a specific day, it's probably worth taking down all the data in some way.

Thanks for the reminder. I think OTT is the same.

I should have all the trains that I know of written in by the end of Saturday at the latest: I am going to take a day off from work on Wednesday and get a bulk - if not all - of the trains that run to / from Taunton written into the TT. I did some more on Monday night and now have 305 trains in the TT, including 83 ECS (5xxx) workings. I reckon I could end up with at least 350 in the TT by the time the whole lot is done and that may go up by a few once any errors have been corrected.

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Freight trains at Cowley Bridge, Taunton and Exeter St. David's on 20th January. Sorry, I can't help with Headcodes or consists. Trains with bold times next to them actually ran.
Just to add to Steamers post:

Don't have all the info but I've gleaned a few headcodes here. The first code is the RTT code with the respective head code following.The timing loads are then shown.

Cowley bridge 653D = 6W09 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
610G = 6W10 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
688G = 6??? Colas Probably a tamper as the load is "locomotive" and tampers often stable in the Premier Transport sdg.
649M = 6W08 DBS 600 tons 60 mph
650M = 6W07 DBS 1800 tons 60mph

Taunton 692E = 6A07 FLR 2400 tons 60 mph
637M = 6??? FLR No load quoted.

Exeter SD 633E = 6Z10 Colas 2020 tons 60 mph
007R = 0Z11 Colas 60 mph was 6Z11
688G as Cowley Bridge

Hope this helps.

Thank you both for this. However the times up to Tiverton Parkway are not given. I reckon that the train I saw at Tiverton Parkway on Monday must have been there most, if not all, of the day so I think that when I host this TT I will put, on the southbound line, the circuit through - as well as on each side of - Tiverton Parkway as occupied to indicate that train: it looked as if there was enough ballast on that train to last several days.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 22/01/2014 at 02:41 #54094
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Remember that RTT only stores data in a publicly-accessible way for up to 8 days (7*24 hours plus the remainder of the day) after the train ran. So if you're looking at a specific day, it's probably worth taking down all the data in some way.

Thanks for the reminder. I think OTT is the same.

I should have all the trains that I know of written in by the end of Saturday at the latest: I am going to take a day off from work on Wednesday and get a bulk - if not all - of the trains that run to / from Taunton written into the TT. I did some more on Monday night and now have 305 trains in the TT, including 83 ECS (5xxx) workings. I reckon I could end up with at least 350 in the TT by the time the whole lot is done and that may go up by a few once any errors have been corrected.

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Freight trains at Cowley Bridge, Taunton and Exeter St. David's on 20th January. Sorry, I can't help with Headcodes or consists. Trains with bold times next to them actually ran.
Just to add to Steamers post:

Don't have all the info but I've gleaned a few headcodes here. The first code is the RTT code with the respective head code following.The timing loads are then shown.

Cowley bridge 653D = 6W09 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
610G = 6W10 DBS 1800 tons 60mph
688G = 6??? Colas Probably a tamper as the load is "locomotive" and tampers often stable in the Premier Transport sdg.
649M = 6W08 DBS 600 tons 60 mph
650M = 6W07 DBS 1800 tons 60mph

Taunton 692E = 6A07 FLR 2400 tons 60 mph
637M = 6??? FLR No load quoted.

Exeter SD 633E = 6Z10 Colas 2020 tons 60 mph
007R = 0Z11 Colas 60 mph was 6Z11
688G as Cowley Bridge

Hope this helps.

Thank you both for this. However the times up to Tiverton Parkway are not given. I reckon that the train I saw at Tiverton Parkway on Monday must have been there most, if not all, of the day so I think that when I host this TT I will put, on the southbound line, the circuit through - as well as on each side of - Tiverton Parkway as occupied to indicate that train: it looked as if there was enough ballast on that train to last several days.

Dave
The train(s) in vicinity of Tiverton Parkway started moving south at about 21:45 last night, I was there when they started to move, but then my bus turned up!

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Forthcoming Timetables 22/01/2014 at 12:40 #54105
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The train(s) in vicinity of Tiverton Parkway started moving south at about 21:45 last night, I was there when they started to move, but then my bus turned up!

Just had a look on RTT: seen that the freights heading back to Exeter Riverside NY passed Cowley Bridge Junction 121mins down. How late were you there?!

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Forthcoming Timetables 22/01/2014 at 13:04 #54107
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Taunton for 20th January

Trains at Taunton
All trains from 00:00 to 23:59 on 20/01/14
***** 02:00 6A07 STP 02:00 Taunton to Fairwater Yard
05:55 06:08 5A08 STP 04:30 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Highbridge & Burnham
06:28 ***** 5A75 STP 05:30 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Taunton
06:35 ***** 5S37 STP 05:50 Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D. to Taunton
06:57 ***** 5A09 VAR 06:00 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Taunton
PASS 07:40 3S12 WTT 01:21 Par to Westbury
***** 09:02 6A08 STP 09:02 Taunton to Westbury Down T.C.
PASS 12:25 3S13 WTT 08:45 Westbury to St Blazey L I P
***** 15:02 5U22 VAR 15:02 Taunton to Taunton
15:10 ***** 5U22 VAR 15:02 Taunton to Taunton
***** 18:45 6X09 STP 18:45 Taunton to Westbury Down T.C. (FL Operated with likely point carriers hence X path)
***** 19:59 5C91 STP 19:59 Taunton to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
***** 20:08 5M69 VAR 20:08 Taunton to Taunton
20:16 ***** 5M69 VAR 20:08 Taunton to Taunton
***** 20:38 5Z35 STP 20:38 Taunton to Taunton
20:54 ***** 5Z35 STP 20:38 Taunton to Taunton
***** 21:06 5M76 VAR 21:06 Taunton to Taunton
***** 21:35 5V66 STP 21:35 Taunton to Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D.
***** 22:00 5Z96 STP 22:00 Taunton to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
***** 22:10 5M72 STP 22:10 Taunton to Taunton
22:18 ***** 5M72 STP 22:10 Taunton to Taunton
22:28 ***** 5M76 VAR 21:06 Taunton to Taunton
***** 22:30 5V68 STP 22:30 Taunton to Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D.
***** 23:22 5C93 STP 23:22 Taunton to Taunton
23:30 ***** 5C93 STP 23:22 Taunton to Taunton

Exeter:


Trains at Exeter St Davids
All trains from 00:00 to 23:59 on 20/01/14
***** 00:25 5C98 STP 00:25 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
00:40 00:45 5Z56 STP 22:55 Westbury to Exeter Tmd
***** 00:55 5L69 VAR 00:55 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
01:35 01:45 5Z72 STP 01:33 Exeter New Yard to Salisbury T&R.S.M.D
PASS 02:44 6Z10 STP 00:25 Westbury Down T.C. to Exeter Riverside N.Y.
02:40 02:50 5Z88 STP 00:05 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to St Philips Mrsh H S T D
PASS 03:17 6Z11 STP 03:14 Exeter Riverside N.Y. to Westbury Down T.C.
04:05 04:09 5Z81 STP 02:10 Westbury to Exeter Tmd
04:13 ***** 5A72 STP 04:10 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
04:17 04:23 3S12 WTT 01:21 Par to Westbury
04:36 04:39 6J86 STP 01:17 Didcot Fuelling Point to Exeter Tmd
04:42 ***** 5L20 VAR 04:40 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
04:38 04:42 5B70 VAR 04:21 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
04:51 ***** 5B70 VAR 04:21 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
04:46 05:01 5Z55 STP 04:39 Exeter Tmd to Westbury
04:57 05:12 5T01 WTT 04:51 Exeter Tmd to Newton Abbot
05:24 ***** 5T03 WTT 05:18 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
05:23 05:30 5Z89 STP 02:30 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Laira T.& R.S.M.D.
05:42 ***** 5D02 WTT 05:36 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
05:59 ***** 5F02 WTT 05:53 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
06:04 06:06 3S12 WTT 01:21 Par to Westbury
06:24 ***** 5F03 VAR 06:14 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
***** 06:40 5T06 STP 06:40 Exeter St Davids to Newton Abbot
06:41 ***** 5Z42 STP 06:36 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
06:45 07:02 3S12 WTT 01:21 Par to Westbury
07:23 ***** 5L28 WTT 07:21 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
PASS 07:45 6J86 STP 07:40 Exeter Tmd to Tiverton Loop
***** 07:53 5L95 VAR 07:53 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
PASS 07:57 0C49 WTT 07:48 Exeter Alphington Road to Exeter Riverside N.Y.
08:06 ***** 5T08 WTT 08:00 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
08:20 ***** 5L32 WTT 08:18 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 08:23 5L03 WTT 08:23 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
***** 08:34 5J90 VAR 08:34 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
***** 08:54 5Z12 STP 08:54 Exeter St Davids to Laira T.& R.S.M.D.
09:04 ***** 5J90 VAR 08:34 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
09:22 ***** 5L36 WTT 09:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
PASS 09:22 6C67 WTT 09:19 Exeter Riverside N.Y. to Exeter Alphington Road
***** 09:51 5L09 VAR 09:51 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
10:22 ***** 5L42 STP 10:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 10:40 5Z69 STP 10:40 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
10:45 ***** 5Z69 STP 10:40 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
***** 10:46 5L13 WTT 10:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
11:23 ***** 5L46 STP 11:21 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 11:46 5L17 WTT 11:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
12:23 ***** 5L50 STP 12:21 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
12:40 ***** 5T14 STP 12:35 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
***** 12:46 5L21 WTT 12:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
PASS 13:15 3S13 WTT 08:45 Westbury to St Blazey L I P
13:22 ***** 5L54 STP 13:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 13:40 5Z20 STP 13:40 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 13:46 5L25 WTT 13:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
14:23 ***** 5L58 STP 14:21 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 14:46 5L29 WTT 14:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
14:40 14:49 5T19 VAR 14:35 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
15:02 ***** 5T19 VAR 14:35 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
15:22 ***** 5L62 STP 15:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 15:46 5L33 WTT 15:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
16:01 ***** 5J92 VAR 15:56 Exeter Tmd to Exeter St Davids
16:22 ***** 5L66 STP 16:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 16:44 5L37 WTT 16:44 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
***** 17:30 5T25 STP 17:30 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
17:35 ***** 5T25 STP 17:30 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
17:37 ***** 5L68 VAR 17:35 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 17:39 5T25 WTT 17:39 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Central
***** 17:47 5L41 VAR 17:47 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
18:12 ***** 5L72 WTT 18:10 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 18:46 5L45 WTT 18:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
***** 19:10 5E47 WTT 19:10 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
19:22 ***** 5L76 WTT 19:20 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 19:36 5E48 WTT 19:36 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 19:52 5L49 STP 19:52 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
19:52 19:54 5Z79 STP 19:18 Paignton to Exeter New Yard
***** 19:55 5M88 STP 19:55 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 20:11 5Z91 STP 20:11 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
20:16 ***** 5Z91 STP 20:11 Exeter St Davids to Exeter St Davids
20:23 ***** 5L80 STP 20:21 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 20:44 5T29 STP 20:44 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 20:48 5L53 WTT 20:48 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
20:50 20:51 5T29 STP 20:44 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
21:19 ***** 5L84 WTT 21:17 Exeter New Yard to Exeter St Davids
***** 21:54 5L57 VAR 21:54 Exeter St Davids to Exeter New Yard
***** 22:12 5Z20 STP 22:12 Exeter St Davids to Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D.
22:15 ***** 5Z65 STP 21:56 Newton Abbot to Exeter St Davids
***** 22:46 5E89 WTT 22:46 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 23:29 5E60 VAR 23:29 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd
***** 23:45 5E61 VAR 23:45 Exeter St Davids to Exeter Tmd


if you compare this with the other information regarding what actually ran you SHOULD be able to gleam the relevant information unfortunately, Cowley Bridge doesn't want to show up on its own, if you require any more info just ask, remember most of the WTT paths may have been cancelled STP probably ran... and VAR are variations to other paths to suit requirements.

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