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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 13:20 #62309
GW43125
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495 posts 		Good afternoon all,

I am currently working on a timetable for Marylebone and am inputting the LUL workings.
So my question is:
Does anybody know what the minimum dwell times are for LUL trains, as there is no arrival time specified in the WTT. I was planning to use the 'dwell time' box instead so if anyone knows what the minimum times are, that would be a great help.

Thanks a lot,
Jamie.
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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:10 #62312
tjfrancis
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359 posts 		i think i right some one may know better than me they spend 10 secs in each stop off peak in peak hours is 20 secs
I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts
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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:42 #62313
Late Turn
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699 posts 		The process of closing the doors and getting the train underway must take the best part of ten seconds alone, so I think the dwell time will be rather more than that!
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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:44 #62314
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36 posts 		Best way to find out, go on youtube and count the seconds go by if you can't find out anywhere else
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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 14:46 #62316
tjfrancis
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359 posts 		when i had a cab ride the driver sayed they are only post to spend 10 to 20 secs in the stop
I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts
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LUL Dwell Times? 30/06/2014 at 16:58 #62326
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232 posts 		" said:
when i had a cab ride the driver sayed they are only post to spend 10 to 20 secs in the stop
I'll try to be simple, as i see some videos on youtube:

Factors of Dwell:

1. Train stop < to > Train open the doors.
2. Train opening doors dwell.
3. Dwell time available for passengers to Enter/Exit.
4. Train closing doors dwell.
5. Train with the doors closed < to > Train start to move.

This is my conception on dwell at station in that case. On the specific S8 Stock:

1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 8 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

So, you have a dwell of: 23 seconds.

You only can "change" the factor number "3" (Dwell time available for passengers to Enter/Exit.) based on peak and off-peak period.

Off Peak: 23 seconds.
1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 8 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

Peak: 31 seconds.
1. 2 seconds.
2. 3 seconds.
3. 16 seconds.
4. 5 seconds.
5. 5 seconds.

Hope this helps Jamie,
Thiago.
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LUL Dwell Times? 01/07/2014 at 07:13 #62347
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229 posts 		On the Metropolitan Line for the area shown in the sim, the average dwell time is timetabled for 20 seconds. However this varies at the following places:

Amersham N/B - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 4 minutes earlier (to allow for detrainment)
Chalfont - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 1 minute earlier
Rickmansworth - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed
Harrow - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed.

If you're using a Working Timetable, if the time has a letter inserted between the hours and minutes then the train has a booked "stand" or earlier arrival time. If it doesn't then the dwell has been timed for 20 seconds. The letters are generally "a" for ½ minute, "b" for 1 minute, "c" for 1½ minutes and so on.
Last edited: 01/07/2014 at 07:15 by metcontrol
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LUL Dwell Times? 01/07/2014 at 07:40 #62351
GW43125
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495 posts 		" said:
On the Metropolitan Line for the area shown in the sim, the average dwell time is timetabled for 20 seconds. However this varies at the following places:

Amersham N/B - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 4 minutes earlier (to allow for detrainment)
Chalfont - trains can be booked to "arrive" up to 1 minute earlier
Rickmansworth - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed
Harrow - generally up to 1 minute each way allowed.

If you're using a Working Timetable, if the time has a letter inserted between the hours and minutes then the train has a booked "stand" or earlier arrival time. If it doesn't then the dwell has been timed for 20 seconds. The letters are generally "a" for ½ minute, "b" for 1 minute, "c" for 1½ minutes and so on.
Thanks for that, I was aware of the letters, just not the time when there's no letter specified

In that case, I'll use 23 secs.

Thanks for all your help everyone,
Jamie.
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