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Exeter ups and downs

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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 03:04 #67396
maxand
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In the Exeter sim, why doesn't the Topsham/Exmouth section follow the "Up Waterloo" and "Down Waterloo" convention, rather than the "Up (Bristol)" and "Down (Bristol)" convention (used in the remainder of the sim with the exception of the Crediton line) since the Topsham line joins the "Down Waterloo" line well before it reaches Exeter Central?
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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 05:53 #67397
BarryM
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" said:
In the Exeter sim, why doesn't the Topsham/Exmouth section follow the "Up Waterloo" and "Down Waterloo" convention, rather than the "Up (Bristol)" and "Down (Bristol)" convention (used in the remainder of the sim with the exception of the Crediton line) since the Topsham line joins the "Down Waterloo" line well before it reaches Exeter Central?
The single line from Exmouth Jn to Exmouth is known as the Exmouth Branch. There are no Up & Down lines on the branch.

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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 07:10 #67400
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Presumably maxand is referring to the directions that the trains are shown as moving in the F2 window.

There could be a number of reasons for this. One practical one I would suggest is that whether you use the Waterloo or Paddington route to London, a train can only be heading towards London, i.e. 'up', if it is heading away from Exmouth!

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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 11:21 #67402
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If you're asking why it does that in Simsig, then of course it's because it does that in real life. (your favourite answer)

If you're asking why the railways decided to name it that way then it's a convention that on branch lines you always go Down to the terminating point and Up to the mainline line. There will of course be exceptions dotted around the network however a lot of those exception may be historical prior to the lines becoming a branch line.

I've attached the NR sectional appendix:-





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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 11:24 #67403
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It does match the "Up Waterloo" and "Down Waterloo" convention, both are up towards London and down away from London
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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 12:00 #67404
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It does match the "Up Waterloo" and "Down Waterloo" convention, both are up towards London and down away from London
However, an Up Train will travel from Exmouth in an Up direction and then travel on the Down Waterloo before entering Exeter St Davids in an Up direction.

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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 12:20 #67405
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And we won't go through the iterations of added irony at Plymouth if there's ever a re-opening via Okehampton as it was pre- 1968......
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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 12:28 #67406
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Oh, but what fun Exeter St Davids would be if the line reopened - you could depart for both Plymouth and London in both directions!
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Exeter ups and downs 05/01/2015 at 13:27 #67408
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GoochyB wrote:
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Presumably maxand is referring to the directions that the trains are shown as moving in the F2 window.

That's what I really meant, thanks.

Firefly wrote:
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However, an Up Train will travel from Exmouth in an Up direction and then travel on the Down Waterloo before entering Exeter St Davids in an Up direction.

That's what puzzled me!

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If you're asking why the railways decided to name it that way then it's a convention that on branch lines you always go Down to the terminating point and Up to the mainline line.

Thanks, that's the explanation I needed. Also thanks for including a pic of the NR sectional appendix.

Sometimes when I'm in a hurry I find it easy to misinterpret the Up or Down as displayed on the F2 Train List. It would have been nice to see them, for example, on the passing loops at Topsham. However, this is easily remedied by adding even more stickies (in different colours!) marked "UP >" OR "< DOWN" as required.

Last edited: 05/01/2015 at 13:28 by maxand
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