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Timetable creation query

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Timetable creation query 30/01/2015 at 19:54 #68590
DaveHarries
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Hi all,

Where I have alternative workings relating to the same train, how can I be sure that one or the other will definitely run but not the same one every time?

In my new KX timetable for Sunday 01st Februay (nearly finished: 488 trains at present and likely to pass 500 by the time it is done) I have one train that seems to have two subsequent possibilities.

1A96 1847 Hull - Kings Cross, due 2147

seems to then work either:

5Y96 2131 Kings Cross - Bounds Green TMD
or
5V96 2229 Kings Cross - Old Oak Common

I guess the two possibilities could be done by duplicating 1A96 to give two of them with the same schedule but how could I be sure that one or the other, but not both, would definitely run? Only asking this for future reference as I don't know whether it will be 5Y96 or 5V96 that runs.

Dave

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Timetable creation query 30/01/2015 at 20:40 #68592
John
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RTT is showing 5Y96 as cancelled.

5V96 is currently shown as running.

This of course could change.

The only way to be really sure is to check what happens on the day.

I'm nights from Sunday so I can check and report back if you like?

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Timetable creation query 30/01/2015 at 20:45 #68593
DaveHarries
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" said:
RTT is showing 5Y96 as cancelled.

5V96 is currently shown as running.

This of course could change.

The only way to be really sure is to check what happens on the day.

I'm nights from Sunday so I can check and report back if you like?

Thanks for the thought John. Checked RTT and found it shows both marked (Q) which presumably means they only run if needed. I will keep eyes on RTT but confirmation is always welcome.

Cheers,
Dave

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Timetable creation query 30/01/2015 at 21:19 #68595
Steamer
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" said:

I guess the two possibilities could be done by duplicating 1A96 to give two of them with the same schedule but how could I be sure that one or the other, but not both, would definitely run? Only asking this for future reference as I don't know whether it will be 5Y96 or 5V96 that runs.
Assuming 1A96-1 forms 5Y96 and 1A96-2 forms 5V96, you'd set 1A96-1 to run 50% of the time, 1A96-2 runs 100% of the time with the rule "1A96-2 must not run if 1A96-1 runs".

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Timetable creation query 30/01/2015 at 22:04 #68598
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" said:
" said:

I guess the two possibilities could be done by duplicating 1A96 to give two of them with the same schedule but how could I be sure that one or the other, but not both, would definitely run? Only asking this for future reference as I don't know whether it will be 5Y96 or 5V96 that runs.
Assuming 1A96-1 forms 5Y96 and 1A96-2 forms 5V96, you'd set 1A96-1 to run 50% of the time, 1A96-2 runs 100% of the time with the rule "1A96-2 must not run if 1A96-1 runs".
Simpler to use 1A96-1 and 1A96-2 are alternatives with no percentages set. Because of the vagaries of statistics and early/late running the "must not run" rules and 50%/100% split doesn't give an exact 50:50 split but the are alternatives rule does.

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Timetable creation query 31/01/2015 at 00:41 #68601
Stanyon
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according to a HT driver they expect to take the unit to OOC as usual (ocasionally its BG but not very ofter) their diagram shows OOC
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Timetable creation query 01/02/2015 at 23:19 #68649
John
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Having watched events on CCF, I can confirm 1A96 formed 5Y96 and went to Bounds Green.
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Timetable creation query 01/02/2015 at 23:39 #68652
John
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And re your request on RailUk, 1H03 was formed from 5H02.
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