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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 28/07/2015 at 20:06 #74565
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1F38 (P31896) is too long to fit into 5B only, and requires 5M or 5.
Ditto 1M58 (P32113).

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 28/07/2015 at 21:39 #74567
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" said:
1F38 (P31896) is too long to fit into 5B only, and requires 5M or 5.
Ditto 1M58 (P32113).
Put 1L77/1F38 on 4B, and 2W16 on 5B. 1M58 on 5M, adjust stopping position to Near end. I'll fix it in the next release.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 28/07/2015 at 22:29 #74568
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1S43 (P30785) doesn't quite fit into 12A, overhanging slightly at the rear. 12B is free, so he can use the whole platform.
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 29/07/2015 at 20:54 #74586
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I'm proud to be the blame for those Class 9's.

It was suggested for only a few trains, I did it for all train via Bham.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 05/08/2015 at 18:31 #74784
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1L89 is another, doesn't fit into 5B. Platform is free throughout, so it can have the whole platform.

1E40 is timetabled for 7, and so will go all the way down to the end of 7B. However, 1M41 requires 7B. I think 1E40 will fit in 7A instead.

9G26, for some reason, stopped hanging out at the rear end of 6A, despite the train happily fitting well inside the platform. Does it need a stopping position specified for some reason? (Is Simsig trying to compensate for the fact that it's joining, and leaving enough space for the second unit, despite the fact the second unit will have 6B to use as well?)

5K23, 1G38 and 1M89 are due into platform 10 together. However, 1G38 travels too far down, and 1M89 is unable to fit in. I suspect a custom stopping position is required.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 08/08/2015 at 19:06 #74918
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Thanks, I'll take a look at those. Sorry for the late response, I've been away for a few days.
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 06/10/2015 at 20:22 #76684
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Version 1.2 is now available to download here. This version fixes all problems reported in this thread.
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 12:35 #76784
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5h78 says p1 but the train it joining it on p2 and tt for that train says p2 as well id for joining train is 5g64
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 16:26 #76788
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5h78 says p1 but the train it joining it on p2 and tt for that train says p2 as well id for joining train is 5g64
Are you definitely using v1.2? I've just checked, and both 5H78 and 5G64 are booked in 2B.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 16:43 #76789
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yes
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 16:54 #76790
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I don't think you are. I've just downloaded the timetable and checked. What Steamer says is correct.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 16:59 #76791
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I don't think you are. I've just downloaded the timetable and checked. What Steamer says is correct.
Confirmed. I can only assume you're misreading something- no trains are booked into P1 until 05:40.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 17:40 #76792
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then look at the attachment then

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 18:05 #76794
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then look at the attachment then
I've no idea how that's happened. What's also odd is that the 'Version' box at the bottom of the timetable window says 1.1, while the text at the top reads 1.2.

I've checked every version on my computer, and none of them have this error. The latest version, contained in the Downloads area, also does not contain the error.

I note that in the Excel spreadsheet you uploaded earlier in this thread, the trains concerned are booked off platform 1. Are you using a version of the timetable that you've edited yourself?

That's the only explanation I can think of. Like I said, the error is not in the timetable sitting in the downloads area, as Karl has confirmed.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 18:41 #76795
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then look at the attachment then
I've no idea how that's happened. What's also odd is that the 'Version' box at the bottom of the timetable window says 1.1, while the text at the top reads 1.2.

I've checked every version on my computer, and none of them have this error. The latest version, contained in the Downloads area, also does not contain the error.

I note that in the Excel spreadsheet you uploaded earlier in this thread, the trains concerned are booked off platform 1. Are you using a version of the timetable that you've edited yourself?

That's the only explanation I can think of. Like I said, the error is not in the timetable sitting in the downloads area, as Karl has confirmed.

no the excel spreadsheet is my homework and i did not edited my self but i wll carrying on playing as it workaroundable

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 11/10/2015 at 19:01 #76797
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no the excel spreadsheet is my homework and i did not edited my self but i wll carrying on playing as it workaroundable
I meant the excel spreadsheet you posted here.

By all means keep playing, but please be aware that the version you're using (however it came into existence) might contain other problems that might be fixed in the latest version. There's also no point in posting 'bug' reports if you're using an old version of the timetable.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 16/05/2017 at 18:30 #95136
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I've got 5H78 and 5G64 both in P2 refusing to join to each other?
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 16/05/2017 at 20:24 #95140
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Please post a saved game, as there could be a number of things wrong. Are they definitely in the same half of the platform at New St, and both have New St as their current location in the timetable?
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 19/05/2017 at 02:28 #95200
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Am I correct in reading that Nelhams has provided you with the LM data for the Class 350 110mph vs 100mph??

If not I'm sure I have the diagrams somewhere in my emails for the entire LM services

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 19/05/2017 at 11:32 #95203
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Guts in post 95200 said:
Am I correct in reading that Nelhams has provided you with the LM data for the Class 350 110mph vs 100mph??
Yes, the train type distinguishes between 350/1 and 350/2 (no 350/3s ran to Birmingham on the day I have data for).

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 19/05/2017 at 18:26 #95224
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Steamer in post 95203 said:


Yes, the train type distinguishes between 350/1 and 350/2 (no 350/3s ran to Birmingham on the day I have data for).
What I find is that in the CWN, they do not differentiate between /1 and /3 as both are capable of 110.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 19/05/2017 at 20:54 #95229
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In the diagrams it does though.
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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 21/05/2017 at 23:28 #95288
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Guts in post 95229 said:
In the diagrams it does though.
Does it? Not that I've noticed.

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 22/05/2017 at 00:19 #95291
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All LM diagrams I have for the past few years do differentiate between 350/1 & 350/2, Diagrams 401-440 being 350/1 and 441 - 475 350/2, its all down to interpreting the combinations of diagrams that make up a particular service.

Example Diagram Headers

DIAGRAM : NN 440 EWDSu [13/12/2015 TO 14/05/2016] LTP
FLEET : 350/1
POOL : HGBZ Miles since fuel :

Miles : (LD) 0.00 (ETY) 0.00 (TOT) 0.00 FUEL

DIAGRAM : NN 441 EWDSu [13/12/2015 TO 14/05/2016] LTP
FLEET : 350/2
POOL : Miles since fuel :

Miles : (LD) 0.00 (ETY) 0.00 (TOT) 0.00 FUEL

Extract from Diagrams

London Euston 06.04 2T03 0.00 406(1)\475(2)
Watford Junction 06.24 06.25 2T03 0.00 406(1)\475(2)
Tring 06.47 07.00 2T24 0.00 475(1)\406(2)
Watford Junction 07.17 07.19 2T24 0.00 475(1)\406(2)
London Euston 07.40 07.52 3T06 RELF 0.00 406(1)\475(2)
Watford Junction 08.23 08.23 3T06 0.00 406(1)\475(2)
Tring 08.41 08.48 2T06 0.00 475(1)\406(2)
Watford Junction 09.04 09.05 2T06 0.00 475(1)\406(2)
London Euston 09.27 09.34 2T31 0.00 406(1)\475(2)

So for example 2T03 0604 Euston - Tring is formed from Diagrams 406/475 406 being the 350/1 and 475 the 350/2 with the 350/1 being at the country end

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Birmingham New Street 2015 WTT 24/05/2017 at 17:00 #95352
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Meld in post 95291 said:
All LM diagrams I have for the past few years do differentiate between 350/1 & 350/2, Diagrams 401-440 being 350/1 and 441 - 475 350/2, its all down to interpreting the combinations of diagrams that make up a particular service.


HTH
We were talking about /1 and /3, not /1 and /2 which is clearly marked.

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