Gloucester timetabling conundrums

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If you feel so inclined, you could look into why 1E61--MX and 5B39--MX won't join. I think it has something to do with the fact that the former is too long for Platform 2 so the rear of the train is on Platform 1. The sim data for the length of Platform 2 is wrong so the platform is shorter than in real life. Do you think I could get round it by shortening 1E61--MX so that it all fits onto Platform 2?

No, it's because you've got subsequent activities (ie. after the join) with both trains. The correct way would be for one train to join, cease to exist and all further activities should be placed with the other train. The former train should have nothing further in the timetable.

I was thinking the extra activities were benign, but apparently they're not. When I deleted the DR:GW... from 5B39's timetable, it immediately went from "waiting for joining train" to "joining trains". It is unlikely the length of platform 2 makes any difference, because I had the 1E in platform 1 fully, with the rear end clearly overhanging and despite that, the train joined. You should be worried about the front end if anything.

Thanks for all your help with this.

I've deleted the erroneous activity after the join for 5B39 and it now joins the west end of 1E61 no problem.

I can't remember whether the file I uploaded had 1E61 at the correct length or not but I decided to put it back to its correct length having shortened it thinking that the overhang into P1 was the reason for the failed join with 5B39. Now I can't get the train engine, 0E61, back on the east end of the train having left some vans in the Horse Box siding. The train list is quite correctly showing 0E61 stopped at Gloucester (Platform 1) and 1E61 stopped at Gloucester (Platform 2), both waiting for each other to turn up.

I'm going to try shortening 1E61 again and see if that helps.

Chris

Have you tried altering the stopping position of 0E61 (say to FX or even FX -y metres)?

" said:

Have you tried altering the stopping position of 0E61 (say to FX or even FX -y metres)?

Did you mean 1E61, i.e. the incoming main train, rather than the light engine?

The problem with the train stopping beyond the end of Platform 2 is that there is a detachment and then attachment made to the west end of the train and I'm concerned about it either fouling the Up Main for the run round or causing the join at that end to not be on Platform 2.

I'll have a go with FX when I get a chance. Bit of a busy week, this week.

No I'm pretty sure postal meant the loco. The idea is that your problem is caused by the loco stopping too early, and to fix that, you'll tell the driver to go all the way until he bumps into the carriages and joins. Also, the driver could have stopped in P1 merely because the signal leading to P2 was at danger. Gloucester is peculiar in this regard, so when you admit a train into P1 and it stops, the driver will leave it at that and will not proceed to P2 even if that's his timetabled position.

with 1E61 at its prototypically correct length, it is too long for P2, partly because the sim data is wrong on the length of the platform.

How long is the train, and how long did you expect the platform to be?

Have I done something wrong?

Probably need to use "Must appear" rather than "Must not depart"

" said:

Probably need to use "Must appear" rather than "Must not depart"

Thank you.

Does that mean that part 2 will always appear exactly 20 minutes after part 1 leaves?