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Oops! 24/08/2016 at 21:25 #84235 | |
Stephen Fulcher
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/southern-rail-commuters-face-fresh-disruption-caused-by-wrong-sort-of-train-a3328516.html Looks like a case where the driver needed the SimSig option to start up his emergency diesel generator! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: WinsfordSaltMine, BarryM, Prof Jolly, kaiwhara |
Oops! 25/08/2016 at 13:55 #84241 | |
mfcooper
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Half of his train was correct; he couldn't raise the pantograph on the rear 4 and had to "phone a friend" before figuring out there wasn't one!
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Oops! 25/08/2016 at 17:02 #84242 | |
Danny252
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Aha, that makes more sense! Not realising that the unit you're driving doesn't have a pantograph would be quite an impressive feat (presumably there wouldn't be a "raise pantograph" button?) - although on second thoughts, I wouldn't rule it out as not having happened before...
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Oops! 25/08/2016 at 18:08 #84243 | |
Peter Bennet
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Yes that makes sense - though I've been on 365s where one unit's pantograph came down and we still continued albeit struggling a bit. There was an opposite situation a while ago where a pair of 319s left Farringdon for Blackfriars with the rear pantograph still up. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
Oops! 25/08/2016 at 18:32 #84244 | |
AndyG
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" said:Half of his train was correct; he couldn't raise the pantograph on the rear 4 and had to "phone a friend" before figuring out there wasn't one!I believe from my contact that a unit sustained panto damage, the remains being removed at a overnight stabling depot (south of Thames) which didn't hold the required spares, but was OK for service. Unit to be worked back to home depot for repairs.... I think you can see where this is going. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
Oops! 25/08/2016 at 18:59 #84245 | |
Jersey_Mike
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Metro-North avoids this problem because all the New Haven Line trains that operate under catenary are painted red, while the 750V DC trains are painted blue. I think there are some NHL locals that run to the end of third rail at Mt. Vernon. Not sure if they use the DC only stock.
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Oops! 25/08/2016 at 19:40 #84246 | |
clive
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" said:Not realising that the unit you're driving doesn't have a pantograph would be quite an impressive feat (presumably there wouldn't be a "raise pantograph" button?)When South Eastern (or whatever they were called then) had some of the 365s, did they have a "raise pantograph" button? They didn't have any pans. (I remember the Dahn Sarf gricers complaining how bad 365s were. Strangely enough, once Hornsey started actually maintaining them, they worked fine for us.) Log in to reply |
Oops! 25/08/2016 at 21:16 #84249 | |
mfcooper
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" said:I believe from my contact that a unit sustained panto damage, the remains being removed at a overnight stabling depot (south of Thames) which didn't hold the required spares, but was OK for service. Unit to be worked back to home depot for repairs.... I think you can see where this is going. Nope! The rear unit was a 377/4, which is not even fitted with a pantograph. Log in to reply |
Oops! 25/08/2016 at 21:43 #84251 | |
IrishDave
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In any case, Southern's dual-voltage units are based at Selhurst, which is where the train started from in the morning. So even if it had been a 377/2 it would already have been at its home depot.
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Oops! 26/08/2016 at 08:24 #84258 | |
kbarber
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There is a story from the Sou'Western back in the 1980s, of a driver who relieved an up road (4-TC leading) at Basingstoke. (I should explain that the 4-TCs were unpowered but otherwise not easily distinguishable from main-line Southern EMUs of that generation; they were designed to be pushed from Waterloo to Bournemouth by a 4-REP, a high-power EMU built specially for that duty, then at Bournemouth they would hook off the REP and couple to an adapted cl33 to work push-pull to Weymouth, loco leading on the down run and pushing on the return so they could run straight on to the waiting REP and depart after a hardly-longer-than-usual station stop.) As he drove up to London he found acceleration was none too brilliant; certainly not what you'd expect from a 4-REP, even with a couple of 4-TCs to shove. But top speed was still OK and there are plenty of reasons for lack of power so he thought nothing of it. Duly arrived at Waterloo, he screwed the unit down and, as booked, went to the mess room for PNB. As he settled to his sandwich, an announcement came over the tannoy asking the driver who'd brought a loco in to go and move it. He took no notice then, nor when it was repeated a few minutes later. Eventually, the Traincrew Supervisor accosted him in person, asking him what train he'd brought in then requesting him to move the offending loco. He denied ever having moved the loco concerned: "I can't, I'm a 'Juice Jockey'" (i.e. not trained on diesel traction). It was only when taken down and walked along the platform that he realised the train he'd relieved was an up Salisbury and he'd been driving an 8-TC with a 33 shoving from the rear! (It was said he never again relieved a train without first checking the back end as well as the front.) Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Gwasanaethau, Forest Pines, KymriskaDraken, Stephen Fulcher, BarryM, ajax103, headshot119 |
Oops! 26/08/2016 at 13:59 #84265 | |
Lardybiker
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" said:There is a story from the Sou'Western back in the 1980s, of a driver who relieved an up road (4-TC leading) at Basingstoke. (I should explain that the 4-TCs were unpowered but otherwise not easily distinguishable from main-line Southern EMUs of that generation; they were designed to be pushed from Waterloo to Bournemouth by a 4-REP, a high-power EMU built specially for that duty, then at Bournemouth they would hook off the REP and couple to an adapted cl33 to work push-pull to Weymouth, loco leading on the down run and pushing on the return so they could run straight on to the waiting REP and depart after a hardly-longer-than-usual station stop.)Another one for your book Keith! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Gwasanaethau, JamesN, postal, BarryM |