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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 01/04/2017 at 10:32 #94245
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A key selling point of rail travel is that it's often the most environmentally friendly mode of transport for a given journey. To enable passengers to appreciate their contribution, the latest ARS specifications include a bias for 'scenic routing'. This follows on from the highly successful routing standards for IP packets, as detailed in RFC 7511.

Under this scheme, as well as aiming to minimise overall delay (or, at least, any delay to Thameslink services), ARS will, wherever possible, attempt to select routes which are considered more visually amenable. The algorithm places high value on viaducts, sea views, rolling hills, and children waving hankies from the boundary fence. All trains, if possible, will be routed to pass any 'Flying Scotsman' railtour. In urban environments, tracks closest to the many buddleia bushes specially planted and maintained by Network Rail's Green Railway program will be preferred.

Trials at West Midlands ROC have shown up several deficiencies, however. Manual override is required to get any train within a mile of Birmingham New Street, as the algorithm prefers to direct trains to Moor Street instead. Furthermore, the system has classed the line beyond Barnt Green to Redditch as 'extremely scenic', and currently refuses to let trains onto the single line until it is confirmed that all on board are over the age of 16.

Would it be possible for these upgrades to be reflected in SimSig in due course?

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 01/04/2017 at 10:53 #94246
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I am assuming that this function would only be available for 1 day of the year.....?
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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 01/04/2017 at 17:51 #94261
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Sounds like the early versions of ITPS* - though I don't think that was released on April 1st!

* For those that don't know, ITPS was Network Rail's new timetable planning tool numerous years ago, which had a habit of scheduling trains in rather bizarre, circuitous, and long winded ways. True voyages of discovery. There was one example of a schedule from Wembley Yard to Bletchley which should have been a straight run up the West Coast but instead was routed towards London, up the Midland Main Line, west through Birmingham somehow, and back down to Bletchley. An exercise for the reader to work out the routing without reversals.

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 01/04/2017 at 18:18 #94262
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GeoffM in post 94261 said:
Sounds like the early versions of ITPS* - though I don't think that was released on April 1st!

* For those that don't know, ITPS was Network Rail's new timetable planning tool numerous years ago, which had a habit of scheduling trains in rather bizarre, circuitous, and long winded ways. True voyages of discovery. There was one example of a schedule from Wembley Yard to Bletchley which should have been a straight run up the West Coast but instead was routed towards London, up the Midland Main Line, west through Birmingham somehow, and back down to Bletchley. An exercise for the reader to work out the routing without reversals.
Easy, Wembley - Willsden Junction - NLL - MML - Trent South JN - West curve - Castle Donnignton - Stentson Junction - North Staffordshire JN - Tamworth - Kingsbury JN - Water Orton - Landor Street Jn - St Andrews Jn - Bordersley Jn - Lifford East jn - Lifford West jn - Birmingham New Street - Rugby - Bletchley

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 01/04/2017 at 18:26 #94263
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Trainfan344 in post 94262 said:
GeoffM in post 94261 said:
Sounds like the early versions of ITPS* - though I don't think that was released on April 1st!

* For those that don't know, ITPS was Network Rail's new timetable planning tool numerous years ago, which had a habit of scheduling trains in rather bizarre, circuitous, and long winded ways. True voyages of discovery. There was one example of a schedule from Wembley Yard to Bletchley which should have been a straight run up the West Coast but instead was routed towards London, up the Midland Main Line, west through Birmingham somehow, and back down to Bletchley. An exercise for the reader to work out the routing without reversals.
Easy, Wembley - Willsden Junction - NLL - MML - Trent South JN - West curve - Castle Donnignton - Stentson Junction - North Staffordshire JN - Tamworth - Kingsbury JN - Water Orton - Landor Street Jn - St Andrews Jn - Bordersley Jn - Lifford East jn - Lifford West jn - Birmingham New Street - Rugby - Bletchley
How do you propose NLL->MML? Willesden Jn -> Kensal Green Jn -> ???

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 10:15 #94269
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Hmm, either instead via the WLL - Factory Jn - Loughborough Jn - Thameslink - MML, or else NLL - Lea Jn - Temple Mills East Jn - South Tottenham - Junction Road Jn - MML.
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 12:54 #94276
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Having seen very few even faintly amusing April Fool stories this year, I enjoyed this one.
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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 13:38 #94280
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It has been reported overnight that the new ARS spec. now requires a manual override at Kings Cross as the system routes everything to Platform 9 3/4.
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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 13:53 #94281
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Saw This yesterday and thought the same, "East Suffolk Line To Become Busway"

There is a post (comment) at the bottom that says "April Fools" but that was NOT posted by the author of the blog

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 20:34 #94294
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Another good one I saw was a picture of workmen at Stonehenge re-aligning the stones to suit British Summer time.....
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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 02/04/2017 at 22:53 #94295
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Steamer in post 94245 said:

the system has classed the line beyond Barnt Green to Redditch as 'extremely scenic', and currently refuses to let trains onto the single line until it is confirmed that all on board are over the age of 16.

Does this only apply to trains with the headcode 2R43?

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 03/04/2017 at 00:18 #94297
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GW43125 in post 94295 said:
Does this only apply to trains with the headcode 2R43?
I don't know why you've tossed that into the conversation.

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 03/04/2017 at 22:49 #94316
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postal in post 94297 said:
GW43125 in post 94295 said:
Does this only apply to trains with the headcode 2R43?
I don't know why you've tossed that into the conversation.
You're being a danger to yourself now.

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 04/04/2017 at 00:06 #94317
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GW43125 in post 94316 said:
postal in post 94297 said:
GW43125 in post 94295 said:
Does this only apply to trains with the headcode 2R43?
I don't know why you've tossed that into the conversation.
You're being a danger to yourself now.
But it's in my own hands.

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ARS 'Scenic Routing' upgrade 04/04/2017 at 15:16 #94320
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postal in post 94317 said:
GW43125 in post 94316 said:
postal in post 94297 said:
GW43125 in post 94295 said:
Does this only apply to trains with the headcode 2R43?
I don't know why you've tossed that into the conversation.
You're being a danger to yourself now.
But it's in my own hands.
It was with the other guy, just in a different sense...

Last edited: 04/04/2017 at 15:23 by GW43125
Reason: This says optional so why do I have to provide a reason?

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