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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 21/10/2010 at 16:21 #12078
jdtech
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69 posts 		Well I exported the timetable to TXT (after analysing it), and I can't find any "*" in the file - the auto-insert locations just aren't there.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 21/10/2010 at 16:48 #12079
Peter Bennet
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5436 posts 		Hmm how did I do that then.... Did you save after analysing then convert? I'll try and experiment later.

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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 22/10/2010 at 20:13 #12092
jdtech
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69 posts 		Ah, that would explain, done it now.

Presumably though, they will return next time the timetable is analysed/extracted? What purpose do the *s serve?
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 23/10/2010 at 09:22 #12103
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1626 posts 		They're used to tell the ARS where to route trains. Simply --- P1 DMS at Waterloo followed by DMF --- DMF at Clapham Jn is valid in real life, but the ARS in SimSig won't know which of the Hundreds of routes between Waterloo P1 and Clapham Jn FL to use. So the sim automagically interpolates locations between the two to work out which route to use.

The asterisks themselves denote that the location is auto-generated, as opposed to manually generated. It makes the Location Name in the TT window lower case, and stops the train being "scored" at those locations (scored as in no points lost for late/early etc)
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 23/10/2010 at 10:33 #12104
jdtech
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69 posts 		Hmm, personally I'm quite tempted to leave it as it is, rather than faffing around in TXT format deleting all the asterisks, only for them to reappear. ARS routeing on the whole works fine, it's just occasionally it messes up Waterloo > Clapham Junction DMF routing as I mentioned earlier in the thread by adding a random DMS for International Junction. No idea what causes it though.

I've uploaded the final timetable (1.3), if anyone wants to have a go at fixing that then they're welcome to have a go, but seeing as it happens on other timetables as well I think it may be related to the sim. I've also uploaded the final version of the Reduced Rules timetable.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 23/10/2010 at 11:26 #12105
Peter Bennet
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5436 posts 		Once you have deleted the * (and saved and converted back) the location becomes hard coded into the timetable rather that the auto coded that was giving you the trouble.

Peter
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 23/10/2010 at 12:25 #12106
jdtech
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69 posts 		Ah ha, seems I had been subconciously ticking the "Ignore extra info" box each time I used convData! :rolleyes:
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 28/10/2010 at 15:22 #12212
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1128 posts 		I'm currently playing this timetable having finished the 1993 Edinburgh one and have a question regarding the former Eurostar platforms, are they all currently disused or is Platform 20 currently available for South West Trains to use?
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 28/10/2010 at 18:31 #12216
jdtech
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69 posts 		Strictly speaking they are all unavailable for use. Platform 20 will be made available for SWT use some point in the near-ish future though.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 28/10/2010 at 19:33 #12217
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494 posts 		I've heard that Waterloo can be demolished, so whether they go ahead with that one remains to be seen...........
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 22/08/2014 at 07:22 #64016
CTCThiago
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232 posts 		Hello All,

The SX May 2010 was validated and updated to work properly with the Loader version of Waterloo, this update contains:

1. 1768 trains validated.
2. 11 trains removed. Seed Trains for Waterloo 5Z headcodes.
3. Seed trains at Waterloo. (Read the notes on timetable)
4. Dwell Times improved on EMU's and DMU's.

Features that will be updated in future:

1. Driving Rules
2. Alternative version with Waterloo International operating.
3. Dwell times for Staff Trains and other types.
4. Platform Numbers at Vauxhall to the trains needed.
5. UID Test (Beta)

I want to thank Barry M. for help me on testing and seeding trains at Waterloo, and Peter Bennet for the sim itself.

I submitted the file to the downloads section 08:00 UK BST, awaiting approval to be available to download.

Regards,
Thiago.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 10:12 #64055
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4871 posts 		" said:
Hello All,

The SX May 2010 was validated and updated to work properly with the Loader version of Waterloo, this update contains:

1. 1768 trains validated.
2. 11 trains removed. Seed Trains for Waterloo 5Z headcodes.
3. Seed trains at Waterloo. (Read the notes on timetable)
4. Dwell Times improved on EMU's and DMU's.

Features that will be updated in future:

1. Driving Rules
2. Alternative version with Waterloo International operating.
3. Dwell times for Staff Trains and other types.
4. Platform Numbers at Vauxhall to the trains needed.
5. UID Test (Beta)

I want to thank Barry M. for help me on testing and seeding trains at Waterloo, and Peter Bennet for the sim itself.

I submitted the file to the downloads section 08:00 UK BST, awaiting approval to be available to download.

Regards,
Thiago.

:)
Just a quick note to say this is now available in the downloads area.

Thanks Thiago for taking the time to update it for the new sim.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 10:43 #64058
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169 posts 		hi i cant seem to get this timetable to load in the loader. it doesn't seem to register in the loader. i have put it in the waterloo folder.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 10:56 #64059
Steamer
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4028 posts 		" said:
hi i cant seem to get this timetable to load in the loader. it doesn't seem to register in the loader. i have put it in the waterloo folder.
To confirm, is the timetable definitely in Public Documents*\SimSig\Timetables\Waterloo?

*Or wherever your Loader is looking for timetables
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 10:59 #64060
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189 posts 		I have the same issue Steamer and have checked the folder also. All the other updated TTs work - put in same folder as those
Ripley, Derbyshire
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 11:20 #64061
rodney30
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169 posts 		yes all the other waterloo timetables work. i have the same problem as mfloyd
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 11:23 #64062
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4871 posts 		For some reason the downloaded file is missing a file extension, if you add ".wtt" to the end of the file it works fine.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 14:24 #64064
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232 posts 		" said:
For some reason the downloaded file is missing a file extension, if you add ".wtt" to the end of the file it works fine.
For the next update, that will be uploaded next week, i'll create a zip file, to solve the problem of missing extension, I've downloaded on my notebook, and works alright. Thanks Karl Always a pleasure to update the TT's. I'll try more often.

Cheers,
Thiago.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 19:58 #64082
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104 posts 		Am I the only one where trains that are timetabled to enter the sim on the Up Main Slow never appear? Ive updated the loader etc yet nothing helps! Is there something I've missed?
Cheers

EDIT: to clarify this is with all timetables
Last edited: 24/08/2014 at 20:39 by SPADmad
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 24/08/2014 at 22:10 #64084
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2158 posts 		" said:
Am I the only one where trains that are timetabled to enter the sim on the Up Main Slow never appear? Ive updated the loader etc yet nothing helps! Is there something I've missed?
Cheers

EDIT: to clarify this is with all timetables
Appears so. May have to download sim again. Try loading the sim again and start it at 08:00.

Barry
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 25/08/2014 at 01:18 #64090
CTCThiago
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232 posts 		There is a problem with Validate Button:

If you validate a train for example:

1A11: Locations when Validated

Waterloo
International Jn
Vauxhall
Queenstown Road
Clapham Jn (Main)
Earlsfield
Wimbledon

After validated, press OK, then save the TT.

When you open the TT on the next time it'll be in that way:

Waterloo
Clapham Jn (Main)
Wimbledon

Anyone can try and see, i think it's not just me.

Thiago.
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 25/08/2014 at 07:04 #64093
BarryM
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2158 posts 		" said:
There is a problem with Validate Button:

If you validate a train for example:

1A11: Locations when Validated

Waterloo
International Jn
Vauxhall
Queenstown Road
Clapham Jn (Main)
Earlsfield
Wimbledon

After validated, press OK, then save the TT.

When you open the TT on the next time it'll be in that way:

Waterloo
Clapham Jn (Main)
Wimbledon

Anyone can try and see, i think it's not just me.

Thiago.
Unfortunately yes.
Here is an example of how it should be for a train Waterloo to Wimbledon via Queenstown Road to validate with all stations showing. Failure to do so will result in your abbreviated timetable.

1. Waterloo .--.-- 10:00........... . .17.. DWF
2. Inter Junn --.-- 10/03.... DWF... ... DWF
3. Vauxhall 10:06 10:06h.. DWF .. ...DWF
4. Nine Elm --.-- . 10:07h.. DWF ..... DW
5. Queens R --.-- 10/09..... DW . ......DMF
6. Clap (Main).--. 10/13h ...DMF .9 ..DMF
7. Earlfld --.-- .......10/15 ....DMF...... DMF
8. Wimbledn --.-- ..10/20

Barry
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 25/08/2014 at 07:05 by BarryM
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 25/08/2014 at 07:21 #64095
BarryM
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2158 posts 		Here is another example of getting a complete timetable. Currently 1P25 in the timetable shows 3 entries.
In F4 edit 1P25. Under Waterloo add International Junction pass 10/02 path DMF and then validate. Check the result.

The validation adds all the necessary data to the timetable.

Barry
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 25/08/2014 at 07:21 by BarryM
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 25/08/2014 at 07:21 #64096
JamesN
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1626 posts 		I fail to see what the issue is?
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Waterloo May 2010 SX timetable 25/08/2014 at 07:23 #64097
BarryM
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2158 posts 		" said:
I fail to see what the issue is?
They are after more data. Have a look at my last post.

Barry
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 25/08/2014 at 07:24 by BarryM
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