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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 12:35 #19647
AndyG
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1842 posts 		" said:
369 seems to be one of the worst offenders.
probably the approach control on the diverging route to 641, together with clearing the LX.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 12:40 #19649
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521 posts 		Quote:
probably the approach control on the diverging route to 641, together with clearing the LX.
Yep, I can't get it fail.

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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 15:52 #19653
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151 posts 		" said:
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I had that problem also just did a SPAD
Arggh...

Signallers do not do SPAD's because they are not sat on a train.

SPAD is a term which is used when referring to a train that has accidentally passed a signal at danger either due to human error or some kind of system failure. When you authorise a train to pass a signal at danger it is deliberate therefore we would not use the term SPAD.

The majority of signallers will refer to it as "talking by".

Anyway, sorry for the rant, couldn't help myself, I hate hearing people on SimSig say they SPAD'd a train.

Back to the thread, nice sim, thanks Geoff

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If i want to call it a SPAD then i will MY GAME MY CHOICE, If you dont like it then TOUGH!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 16:25 #19654
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If i want to call it a SPAD then i will MY GAME MY CHOICE
Lol, that's fine.

Probably best not to use the term if you ever get inside a real signalling centre :blush:
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 16:32 #19655
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3685 posts 		also noticed the aised in the top left corner. something left over from development?

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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 18:22 #19665
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1120 posts 		I like this, the only bug I've encountered so far is all trains once they've departed Brighton for reason lose their headcode - although I think I've narrowed it down to Platforms 3 to 8.

I don't know why but apart from that it's certainly a great sim
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 18:24 #19666
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3685 posts 		as has already been said, its not a bug, its the actual method of train description in brightons platform berths
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 18:53 #19667
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1120 posts 		I know it's better to be accurate but why did the Southern go with that method then regarding the train headcodes once they leave certain platform berths at Brighton?
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 19:10 #19668
jc92
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3685 posts 		all it requires is for the signalman to interpose the next departure at the formost berth. i assume it was for reference of what the previous service was so as to tell what is/was in the platform
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 19:20 #19669
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148 posts 		I have a small issue, When 5N01 enters from lovers walk down the WCR, the route doesnt clear it self once the train has left the section, leaving me to manual cancel the route afterwards, but because you do it at shunt signal 1279 you recieve a penalty with 30seconds approach locking.

not sure if this is a known issue so i raised it here :)

nice sim by the way bringing back some good memorys.

i have attatched saved game, it happens only a few minutes in
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 19:22 #19670
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148 posts 		its not letting me attatch a saved game if you want it just let me know.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 19:31 #19671
jc92
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3685 posts 		the fact there is no torr on that signal is a known issue, as is the 30 seconds locking, this is authentic to a real location. are u sure there is a points penalty though?
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 19:34 #19672
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148 posts 		if its a known issue not to worry, just double checked no penalty given here.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:03 #19673
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5264 posts 		" said:
its not letting me attatch a saved game if you want it just let me know.
Known problem. The Forum won't allow uploads of .ssg files. It will allow zip files so saved games can always be uploaded by zipping them up first. If you hover the cursor around and about the Add File button you can see a list of allowed file types (or you can on my system, anyway).
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:04 #19674
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1842 posts 		Try uploading it to here: http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=56&func=select&id=37
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:05 #19675
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148 posts 		i tried a zip failed too. but if its a known bug in the sim i wont need to retry anyway. And as it gives no penalty theres no problem.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:31 #19677
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i tried a zip failed too. but if its a known bug in the sim i wont need to retry anyway. And as it gives no penalty theres no problem.
It is not a bug. From the user manual: "Signal T1279 (Brighton West Carriage road) must be manually cancelled, whereupon it will then time-out before the route releases.". At the top of the same section it states that these are true to real life unless otherwise indicated.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:42 #19678
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3685 posts 		" said:
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i tried a zip failed too. but if its a known bug in the sim i wont need to retry anyway. And as it gives no penalty theres no problem.
It is not a bug. From the user manual: "Signal T1279 (Brighton West Carriage road) must be manually cancelled, whereupon it will then time-out before the route releases.". At the top of the same section it states that these are true to real life unless otherwise indicated.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 20:51 #19681
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its not letting me attatch a saved game if you want it just let me know.
Known problem. The Forum won't allow uploads of .ssg files.
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 21:57 #19688
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5 posts 		None of the call on signals are working for me, having to tell trains to pass at danger for platform sharing at Brighton/joining at Haywards Heath, am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Brighton Beta 20/08/2011 at 22:43 #19689
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3685 posts 		if you read one of the first posts in this thread the issue has already been covered
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Re: Brighton Beta 21/08/2011 at 03:19 #19690
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521 posts 		" said:
I know it's better to be accurate but why did the Southern go with that method then regarding the train headcodes once they leave certain platform berths at Brighton?
There are number of strange things at Three Bridges. It's not really a Southern thing, more like a Three Bridges thing.

People who know the chief signalling engineer for the scheme just laugh at the anomalies and blame him.

The Direction of Flow arrows are a case in point (also mentioned on the wiki). I did some panel alterations on the Purley Panel and that involved re-testing the direction of flow arrows. We were scratching our heads for some time thinking we'd got something drastically wrong. It's extremely strange to set a route into a section of line that has an arrow lit in the opposite direction. (as that would normally signify you are route locked and it wouldn't work). After much checking of diagrams and wiring we asked the signalling shift manager if it was like that prior to our work. The reply, "oh yeh, they all do that"

I can't think of any other examples but I know there are a few.

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Re: Brighton Beta 21/08/2011 at 04:36 #19691
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2158 posts 		Is a new Category going to be setup in Timetables? I found a run that may need adjustment.
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Re: Brighton Beta 21/08/2011 at 06:34 #19692
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5 posts 		" said:
if you read one of the first posts in this thread the issue has already been covered
The post by you? Sorry I thought you were just referring to one specific train not calling on rather than it being a general fault.
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Re: Brighton Beta 21/08/2011 at 07:13 #19693
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211 posts 		Nice simulation. Here is a link to a training video showing a journey from Brighton Pt 3 to Hove Pl 1 and back.

http://youtu.be/DhHj7C4l3mk
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