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Stirling 21/10/2011 at 19:17 #21923
tynie123
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I wonder if somebody could help re Stirling. I have added the Alloa timetable but i cannot get trains to go platform 6 or the bays 7 and 8, after Clayslaps trains only continue to platform 2 ..any help ta
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Re: Stirling 21/10/2011 at 19:33 #21925
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Setting the route to Platform 6 involves clicking on the signal [Signal SM82] to the right-hand side of Clayslaps, then the signal [Signal SM47] just before Platform 6 then finally Signal SN18, which is the platform starter signal at the Down end of the platform. However, when you try setting the route to Platform 6 from Signal SM82, you may note the message window comes up with a message "Route not ready to release" - there is a 'time-out'(?) which means there is a timelimit for approaching that signal. I forget what the timelimit is but if you give it a couple of tries you may be able to work it out for yourself.

I'm not sure about Platforms 7 and 8 - it may be the case that there is not a valid route to them from the Down Perth line - i.e: you are only able to route an Empty Coaching Stock (ECS) train into these platforms from the shunt signals on the Up Perth.

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Re: Stirling 21/10/2011 at 19:34 #21926
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Setting the route to Platform 6 involves clicking on the signal [Signal SM82] to the right-hand side of Clayslaps, then the signal [Signal SM47] just before Platform 6 then finally Signal SN18, which is the platform starter signal at the Down end of the platform. However, when you try setting the route to Platform 6 from Signal SM82, you may note the message window comes up with a message "Route not ready to release" - there is a 'time-out'(?) which means there is a timelimit for approaching that signal. I forget what the timelimit is but if you give it a couple of tries you may be able to work it out for yourself.

I'm not sure about Platforms 7 and 8 - it may be the case that there is not a valid route to them from the Down Perth line - i.e: you are only able to route an Empty Coaching Stock (ECS) train into these platforms from the shunt signals on the Up Perth.

Hope this helps.

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From the Wiki

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A couple of signals can’t be pulled off until track circuits are occupied for a length of time; you will receive a message “route not ready to release” if early pulling off is attempted. Details are in the sections dealing with specific locations.
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Notes: Signal SM82 route to SM79 has a 30 second approach lock if platform 2 is occupied. Signal SM82 route to SM47 has a 30 second approach lock if platform 6 is occupied, otherwise it needs just the TC to be occupied.

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Last edited: 21/10/2011 at 19:40 by UKTrainMan
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Re: Stirling 21/10/2011 at 20:25 #21929
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Thanks i will give it a go. That is the message i get
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Re: Stirling 21/10/2011 at 20:45 #21930
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" said:

I'm not sure about Platforms 7 and 8 - it may be the case that there is not a valid route to them from the Down Perth line - i.e: you are only able to route an Empty Coaching Stock (ECS) train into these platforms from the shunt signals on the Up Perth.
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Re: Stirling 22/10/2011 at 13:44 #21951
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That's correct in that operations. The signal protecting the south end of stirling station allows moves into platform 2 , 6 , 9 & 10. All except 2 are time released due to the curvature of the line plus i believe it's a 20mph psr there. As it was said , 7 & 8 are shunt signals so therefore a service train cannot be signalled in. Same applies for north bays 4 & 5 although in service trains can depart from those platforms. That's for departures south (7 & 8) and north (4 & 5)
Last edited: 22/10/2011 at 13:46 by 320322
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Re: Stirling 24/10/2011 at 11:47 #22002
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I think the main issue with 7&8 is the lack of a facing point lock on the point between them.

The route into 6/9/10 is certainly quite contorted and may be 'adverse camber' too, so that explains the speed restriction.

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=6360
http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=26356
http://www.mwwilson.plus.com/photo2/stirling_09-89.jpg

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Last edited: 24/10/2011 at 11:51 by bill_gensheet
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