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| Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 15:19 #24879 | |
leg_iron
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I am having a go with Euston but i am stuck with routing train 4L82, train from Up Slow to Camden Junction. I can set a route from signal 146 to 132 but i cant set a route from Signal 149 to signal 146. I then get phone calls from the driver who is held at signal 149. The only way that i can get the train to pass signal 149 is to allow the driver to pass the red signal. I am having problems routing all trains that arrive on the up slow line. What am i doing wrong? Last edited: 11/12/2011 at 15:34 by leg_iron Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 15:41 #24882 | |
postal
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The glib answer is "not reading the manual". The sensible answer is that routes from 149 to 146 only set after 3 clicks, not 2. You need to click on 149 to 146 as you would to normally set a route, and then click in the arrow on either the Euston or Primrose Hill lines. Once all 3 are clicked, the route sets.
“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 11/12/2011 at 15:41 by postal Log in to reply The following user said thank you: leg_iron |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 18:00 #24891 | |
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leg_iron
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Ive set the route as instructed in the reply to my post but the train just sits at signal 146 and rings up the box as the signal has not changed from red to green. i give up on this sim as i have been instructed yet it still doesnt work.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 18:26 #24892 | |
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J5flyer
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Hello, Try clicking on 149, then 146, then the little grey arrow on the line either towards Euston or Camden Road. You need to click on one of the grey arrows in addition to the signals, in order to set the overlap in the correct direction and set the route. It is a 3 'click' process to set this route, not the normal 2. When you have set the route from 149 to 146 as just decribed, you can then set the route from 146 to 132 etc as per the normal method. Try and read what has been posted very carefully and try again. You need to click on the signals and the overlap arrow to set the route, in much the same way as you set routes with the 'via' buttons at Euston itself, except you are setting the direction of the overlap, rather than the path of the route itself. James Last edited: 11/12/2011 at 18:28 by J5flyer Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 18:32 #24893 | |
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postal
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Do you mean 146 or 149? If you have the train at 146, then the problem you made in your first posting has been solved and you can then click from 146 to 135 on the Euston line or 132 on the Primrose Hill line (without needing to click on the grey triangle) to move the train forward. If the train is still sitting at 149 and that is red, you have not followed the instructions in the manual and/or my suggestion correctly. Other people have had the same problem (see for example posts #24 - #29 in this topic) and the advice every time has been the same and as I wrote to you earlier. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 18:48 #24895 | |
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leg_iron
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Ive done everything that you have written on numerous times but it still doesnt work. The train still comes to a halt and phones saying that the signal is still red.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 18:52 #24896 | |
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leg_iron
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Ive done everything that people have written on my thread and what the manual tells me to but it still wont work. I am going to remove it from my pc as its unplayable.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:06 #24897 | |
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Sam Tugwell
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" said:I am going to remove it from my pc as its unplayable.A bit extreme. Lots of people have been able to play the sim. We have been given the correct instructions (which can also be found in the very helpful manual) that have been stated above. If you follow them, then it will work. "Signalman Exeter" Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:12 #24898 | |
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leg_iron
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I have tried everything that people have instructed me to and also read the manual but it still will not work.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:15 #24899 | |
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leg_iron
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I know im not thick and ive done everything that has been suggested but it will not work despite everyones help. I am uninstalling it as its unplayable.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:18 #24900 | |
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postal
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Can you attached a saved game (you may need to zip it to upload it here) with a train sitting at whichever signal you can't clear so that someone can work out what is going wrong and help you to put it right.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:41 #24904 | |
BarryM
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" said:I know im not thick and ive done everything that has been suggested but it will not work despite everyones help. I am uninstalling it as its unplayable.Leg_iron, you are giving up to soon. Let me try and step it out. 1. I want you to look at the panel on the line between sig. 146 and sig 135. In between these signals is an arrow (<). That is an intermediate signal button. 2. Now to set the route from sig. 149 you do this. Click on sig 149 (one click only) then click on sig. 146 (one click only) then click on the arrow button (<). You will notice that a route has been set from sig 149 to 146. 3. To continue the route, click in sig 146 to sig 135 or sig 146 to sig 132. The New lines have the same procedure. Hope this helps Never give up! Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 11/12/2011 at 19:42 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:42 #24905 | |
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Forest Pines
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I have to admit, I've sometimes forgotten to clear 146 to 135 or 147 to 136. The overlap of 148 to 146 goes all the way up to 135, so if you have 148 to 146 set and 135 to 115 set, you have a continuous line of set TCs and it's easy to miss that there's no route set for the section in the middle. The same goes for 148-147-136-115.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 19:56 #24907 | |
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leg_iron
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I have attached a saved game from the Euston PSB. I am also having problems with trains arriving on the up new line despite doing everything that people have suggested.
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| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 20:09 #24911 | |
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BarryM
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" said:I have attached a saved game from the Euston PSB. I am also having problems with trains arriving on the up new line despite doing everything that people have suggested.The same applies as my previous post. You have to press each signal button 148 then 147 then the arrow (< after 147) button once. Never give up Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 20:43 #24916 | |
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BarryM
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" said:I have attached a saved game from the Euston PSB. I am also having problems with trains arriving on the up new line despite doing everything that people have suggested.Gee Leg_Iron, this is just normal routing. For 4L82 click on sig.146 then sig 132. For 5M31 click on sig, 147 then sig. 136. Never give up! Good to see you are not giving up. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 11/12/2011 at 20:53 #24918 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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" said:I know im not thick and ive done everything that has been suggested but it will not work despite everyones help. I am uninstalling it as its unplayable.I have just tried it on my version and have no problems setting any of the routes described above. BarryM has set out a very clear set of instructions of how to do this, which are 100% accurate. Euston is a difficult simulation due to the number of trains involved, but it is far from unplayable. SimSig Developers have NEVER released a simulation that has bugs which make it unplayable. Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 12/12/2011 at 11:09 #24971 | |
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kbarber
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" said:
However I believe the panel was so busy that three signalmen per shift were required to cover the two panel positions, at least on the two day shifts. No-one was allowed to do more than four hours on Station End, so halfway through the shift the Station End man would go spare, Camden End man would go to Station End and the spare man would take over Camden End. (I have heard it said this arrangement was introduced after some nervous breakdowns among the original signalmen!) Some people might consider that a comment on the playability...  But as for it not working...!!!!!!! Log in to reply |
| Re: Routing train from up slow to camden Junction 12/12/2011 at 18:34 #24994 | |
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postal
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leg_iron I've started your saved game and wonder if you have noticed something that gave the clue to BarryM and Stephen Fulcher about how to solve the problem. If you look at signal 149, you will see that the signal stem is white. That indicates that the route is set from the signal (and hasn't yet cleared down following the passage of 4L82. Now if you look at signal 146, you will see that the stem is grey. That tells you that no route is set from the signal (although the overlap from 149 extends past which is why the route is still blocked out in white). When you click on 146 then 132, you will see the stem of 146 change to white at the same time as the signal changes to green (and if there had been a train in the section between 146 and 132 the stem would still have changed to white even though the signal would not change until the section was clear). You have to watch the same thing when you are signalling from 146 down the bank to Euston. That also applies to trains from the New Lines. For example you have 5M31 standing at 147 and again the signal stem is still grey. For that train you need to click on 147 and then 136 in order for it to proceed (and again you will see the stem on 147 change to white as the route is set). Keep at it - you will enjoy it once you get your head round all of the foibles. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 13/12/2011 at 01:46 by postal Log in to reply |