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| Re: Spelling 14/01/2012 at 19:14 #27322 | |
Peter Bennet
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Couldn't be bothered the first time- but I get it now- very good. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 19:19 #27323 | |
sloppyjag
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Whilst the original post which prompted this thread was probably breached Forum Rule 4 because of some spelling and grammatical errors the actual content and gist of the question was valid and perfectly understandable (to most forum users.) However, the first response to it was just rude and could be considered in breach of two articles of Forum Rule 6: Quote: You must not:I don't know the original poster or know what his (or her) circumstances. For all I know he (or she) could have been involved in a horrible chainsaw accident and has to type using his (or her) nose! Planotransitophobic! Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 19:34 #27326 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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" said:" said:It is a rather interesting, and indeed accurate statement, once I realised it had nothing to do with train 7H15!And while we are on the subject, Could all posters start there sentences with capital letters please.CERTAINLY: 7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C34R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. R3 P057 1F U C4N R35D 7H15 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 20:38 #27327 | |
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ledgero2
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I'd like to point out that in my original post, which has been perhaps taken out of context here, i did not mention the original poster specifically....so where was the berating/ belittling? Jeez, it was just a joke, just goes to show how miserable some people are.... edit: i also find it rather amusing how every time i log on my Karma has dropped about 3 points :laugh:. so how is someone lowering my karma score not a form of bullying or belittling then? hypocrites. Last edited: 14/01/2012 at 20:39 by ledgero2 Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 20:52 #27328 | |
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AndyG
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573V3, 1 C4N R35D 7H47 P057 3A5ILY.
I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Stephen Fulcher |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 21:20 #27329 | |
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ledgero2
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" said:573V3, 1 C4N R35D 7H47 P057 3A5ILY.I C4N7 4NDY.... Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 21:34 #27330 | |
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AndyG
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" said:And while we are on the subject, Could all posters start there sentences with capital letters please.would we get a capital punishment sentence...I thought the death penalty had been abolished. :pinch: I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Last edited: 14/01/2012 at 21:34 by AndyG Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 21:54 #27332 | |
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sloppyjag
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" said:I'd like to point out that in my original post, which has been perhaps taken out of context here, i did not mention the original poster specifically....so where was the berating/ belittling? Jeez, it was just a joke, just goes to show how miserable some people are....Your post was the second of two posts at the time. So, if you were not referring to the only other post in the thread, which poster were you referring to? Edited to add: Yes, I did see your post before the thread was split so it looked very much like it was directed at the original poster as his was the only other post in the thread. Planotransitophobic! Last edited: 14/01/2012 at 21:58 by sloppyjag Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 14/01/2012 at 21:58 #27333 | |
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AndyG
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Note that the thread has been split up, so that may, or may not, be true.
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| Re: simulation phone calls 15/01/2012 at 07:53 #27339 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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" said:Note that the thread has been split up, so that may, or may not, be true. I saw it as well, Andy, as sloppyjag describes - hence my rather 'bitchy' reply that now looks a bit out of context. Log in to reply |
| Re: simulation phone calls 16/01/2012 at 13:27 #27449 | |
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kbarber
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Might I suggest we also remember, as one poster said, that some people are dyslexic and therefore find it hard to write/type in the way that others of us consider second nature. The forum rules exist for a purpose. I think it would be a good idea if we at least started with the intention of complying with them to the best of our ability. But I've long believed that rules are for the guidance of the wise and that we should read them in that spirit; those whose first language is not English or who wrestle with the difficulties of dyslexia or other conditions probably cannot comply strictly with those rules no matter how hard they try. Better that we are relaxed about strict observance of the rules than that we deter people from joining this community. I think it's rare indeed that a simple mistake in typing will lead to a significant misunderstanding (unless a very specific piece of information is being typed). Context will usually alert us to situations where a mistake might've been made and a request for clarification shouldn't be considered a problem (any of us is capable of omitting or adding a word, particularly when editing a draft, that changes the meaning of what we're saying.) Matters of style really shouldn't become an issue; I much prefer proper capitalisation and punctuation but I'm certainly not going to make an issue of it where people don't do it properly (at least not without adding a nice big smiley so people can see they're being teased - and I'd want to confine that to people I know or have some track record with on here). Above all, people who have a genuine issue communicating shouldn't be humiliated - anyone with dyslexia gets my admiration for being prepared to expose their disability on a forum such as this, particularly as it's a condition that gets so little sympathy or understanding - even if we're not prepared to do the little extra work that's needed to ensure their posts are understood. In general, this is a good community to belong to. Please let's ensure we keep it that way! Log in to reply The following users said thank you: AndyG, postal, Meld, Hooverman, Josie, maxand, delticfan, GoochyB, BarryM |
| Re: simulation phone calls 16/01/2012 at 13:33 #27450 | |
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AndyG
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Nicely put, Keith
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| Re: Spelling 16/01/2012 at 13:34 #27451 | |
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maxand
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i dont think anyones mentiond british and american spelings here. down under in orstrailia we get the worst of both. thay lernt me good at skool here. six munfs ago i coundnt spel signaler now i are one. Last edited: 16/01/2012 at 13:37 by maxand Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 02:32 #27501 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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There are a great many people in the UK who use the American spelling of some words, such as authorized rather than the correct British spelling, authorised. When used in an official capacity at work, it frustrates the hell out of me - and I tend to email the person responsible requesting an amendment to the document in question, however on a forum such as this, or on Facebook for instance, it makes little difference. Out of interest, in Australia do you use the British or American version? Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 04:30 #27504 | |
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maxand
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Quote:Out of interest, in Australia do you use the British or American version?Good question. I use the American version for compliance with most terminology applied to Windows software (e.g., Maximize, rather than Maximise, a Window) since software and programmers are used to this. However, it's not really an issue. When I am on a UK forum I try as much as possible to use British spelling. I know I'm spelling properly when my American spell checker underlines a word, e.g., colour rather than color. When I am on a US or European forum I tend to use American spelling. Can't be bothered switching my spell-checker over. As for my fellow-Australians, I think we're all so brainwashed by American advertising that we tend to spell things their way. Keith Barber: Quote: Might I suggest we also remember, as one poster said, that some people are dyslexic and therefore find it hard to write/type in the way that others of us consider second nature. Well said, Keith. Last edited: 17/01/2012 at 04:32 by maxand Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 06:52 #27512 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:There are a great many people in the UK who use the American spelling of some words, such as authorized rather than the correct British spelling, authorised.Emm, according to my dictionary (OED dated 1960) -ize stems from Greek and -ise from French. Both are acceptable in English-English but -ize is preferable. I understand that the move away from -ize is largely because there are some words that don't stem from Greek where ise is correct so it makes it simpler all round. See Postal's comment above. The "Americanization" argument is something of an urban myth methinks. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 17/01/2012 at 06:53 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 07:19 #27515 | |
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maxand
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In that case, the "Maximise" option in any scrolly window's context menu should be changed to "Maximize". 
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| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 11:28 #27530 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:In that case, the "Maximise" option in any scrolly window's context menu should be changed to "Maximize". :)"Could" might be a better word than "should" if you read what I said. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 11:36 #27531 | |
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AndyG
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It's 'Maximize' if you right click on the border and 'Maximise' if you right click within the window. So I guess it's an UK view with an US border, pays your money and takes your pick.
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| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 11:48 #27532 | |
postal
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" said:So I guess it's an UK view with an US border.Bit like the extradition laws then. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 17/01/2012 at 23:36 #27591 | |
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Josie
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" said:Emm, according to my dictionary (OED dated 1960) -ize stems from Greek and -ise from French. Both are acceptable in English-English but -ize is preferable.I've studied OED quite a lot. -ise/-ize endings is one of the two things where OED has always disagreed with all other dictionaries/style manuals etc. (the other historically being the serial or 'Oxford' comma, though their opinion on that is now in line with everyone else). OED indicates a preference for -ize endings, whereas every other British source I'm aware of prefers -ise. Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 18/01/2012 at 06:54 #27626 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:Just had a look at my Collins English Thesaurus, which as far as I can see is an English-English version (checked colour for example - a good indicator), and it has, for example maximize and realize. Anyway, the main point I was making is that it's wrong to say this is an Americani(z/s)ation of the language. Arguably it's the UK that's evolved, for right or wrong, away from ize and the Americans have stuck with it.Emm, according to my dictionary (OED dated 1960) -ize stems from Greek and -ise from French. Both are acceptable in English-English but -ize is preferable.I've studied OED quite a lot. -ise/-ize endings is one of the two things where OED has always disagreed with all other dictionaries/style manuals etc. (the other historically being the serial or 'Oxford' comma, though their opinion on that is now in line with everyone else). OED indicates a preference for -ize endings, whereas every other British source I'm aware of prefers -ise. Peter Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 18/01/2012 at 08:38 #27638 | |
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clive
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" said:OED indicates a preference for -ize endings, whereas every other British source I'm aware of prefers -ise.-ize was good enough for Shakespeare: Then with the losers let it sympathize, For nothing can seem foul to those that win. Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 18/01/2012 at 09:54 #27646 | |
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postal
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" said:" said:Depends where you look. The Arden Shakespeare Complete Works edited by senior academics Ann Thompson, David Scott Kastan, Richard Proudfoot (A&C Black 2001 edition) gives sympathise, not sympathize. You can verify at this link (lines 7/8 of Scene 5.1).OED indicates a preference for -ize endings, whereas every other British source I'm aware of prefers -ise.-ize was good enough for Shakespeare: “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 18/01/2012 at 09:55 by postal Log in to reply |
| Re: Spelling 18/01/2012 at 09:56 #27647 | |
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GoochyB
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" said:-ize was good enough for ShakespeareBut I wouldn't advocate that we start using Shakespearean English for all forum posts 
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