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| north wales coast? 07/04/2011 at 20:59 #2786 | |
jc92
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i recently stopped at prestatyn in north wales and it made me realise there is no welsh simulation. the north wales coast route could potentially be an interesting sim with a mix of AB and NX panel working thoughts? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 07/04/2011 at 20:59 #14885 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
i recently stopped at prestatyn in north wales and it made me realise there is no welsh simulation. the north wales coast route could potentially be an interesting sim with a mix of AB and NX panel working thoughts? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 10:31 #14893 | |
kbarber
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Lots of AB! <drools> My partner grew up on Anglesey & still has family up there, so I know that line somewhat. Any chance of a historic version too? Llandudno Junction & Rhyl with 2 large mechanical boxes each... maybe that's where someone brave might try & code my idea for bell signals with AB. <drools even more> (Note to self: control yourself Barber!!!) Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 16:26 #14905 | |
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jc92
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only problem i can see is potentially chester psb is a sim in its own right. however NWC would end up being a sim of size and style similar to NESCOT? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 19:24 #14909 | |
headshot119
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I would like to see the NW coast done. Chester PSB (Chain to Croess Newydd and Sandhills) Rockcliffe hall Abergele Rhyl Llandudno JNC Bangor LlanfairPG Holyhead I think that's most if not all of them. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 19:36 #14911 | |
DriverCurran
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Headshot 119 If I could perhaps direct you to the locked topic at the top of this forum with regards to the first location in your post. Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 19:40 #14912 | |
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headshot119
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Ahhh but only if Geof doesn't work on it 
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| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 19:47 #14914 | |
Peter Bennet
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Chester seems OK, it's the Liverpool bit that's not allowed. Anyway to add to the list is Deganwy and (presumably) Llandudno itself. We stayed in Deganwy a couple of years ago very near the station and a N Wales Sim crossed my mind then- a SimSig developer is never on holiday it seems.... Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 19:49 #14915 | |
58050
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I lent Howard some back back a signaling diagram for Chester PSB dated 1984 when the power box was comissioned for a possible future sim.
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| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 20:19 #14916 | |
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welshdragon
315 posts |
I have drawn North Wales for another Simulator Railway Operations Simulator , but the data file corrupted so I couldn't complete it. If you provide me with lots of cookies I might be motivated to do it again... Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 20:44 #14917 | |
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welshdragon
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I forgot I've also done this: it's nowhere near completion however. --------- Here's the full list of boxes along the line and branches including their type. Chester PSB (Chain to Croess Newydd, Sandhills, Mickle Trafford and Crewe) Rockcliffe Hall - AB Holywell Junction - AB Mostyn - AB Talacre - AB Prestatyn - AB Rhyl No 1- AB Abergele - AB Llandudno Junction - ? (think it's NX) [indent]Deganwy - AB Llandudno - AB[/indent]Penmaenmawr - ? (NX) Bangor - AB (Bangor controls the single line working across the Britannia Bridge) Llanfair PG (Crossing box only, Not a Block Post) - AB Gaerwen - AB Ty Croes (as Llanfair PG) Valley - AB Holyhead - AB ------------- A good thing bout the different eras is that when the A55 was built the railway was moved somewhat I'll shut up now. 24 years of being a railway enthusiast brought up along this line means I have read about it quite a bit, Shame I don't have the skills to sit down and write this in Simsig. Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 21:08 #14918 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
i have this software lol. any chance of taking a butchers?
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| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 21:20 #14919 | |
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welshdragon
315 posts |
< (insert cookie here)
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| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 21:31 #14920 | |
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Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
Was Holyhead resignalled in near past? I ask because when we were in the area I noticed the box panel diagram at the railway museum at Betws-y-coed all in bubble wrap as though it had just arrived from somewhere- implying the box had been revamped in some form. Also a bit of information - the 08.40 Euston-Holyhead on Saturday 28th May is booked Pendolino (Cl 57 drag); I know because we are going to be on it and Virgin HQ informed me the reason we can't book seats is because the decision to change the stock from Voyager has broken the reservation system. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 08/04/2011 at 22:07 #14921 | |
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welshdragon
315 posts |
As far as I know Holyhead hasn't had any changes made to it's signalling in a while.
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| north wales coast? 09/04/2011 at 00:26 #14922 | |
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pbinnersley
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Peter Bennet said:Was Holyhead resignalled in near past? I ask because when we were in the area I noticed the box panel diagram at the railway museum at Betws-y-coed all in bubble wrap as though it had just arrived from somewhere- implying the box had been revamped in some form.When I visited last November the Holyhead diagram was unwrapped, but on top of a display case so I could only photograph the top half. Hopefully they are re-positioning it. Peter. Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 09/04/2011 at 04:38 #14924 | |
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Rushey Platt
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welshdragon said:As far as I know Holyhead hasn't had any changes made to it's signalling in a while. Holyhead was partially resignalled in January 2008 Rob Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 09/04/2011 at 13:47 #14928 | |
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headshot119
4869 posts |
Croess Newydd was resignalled in recent times (2008 - 2009?) It changed from a lever frame, to an NX panel.
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| north wales coast? 09/04/2011 at 14:13 #14929 | |
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postman
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Does anyone know if Beeston & Tarpoley LNW box is still operational, between Crewe & Chester ?
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| north wales coast? 09/04/2011 at 18:37 #14931 | |
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headshot119
4869 posts |
No postman it's gone
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| north wales coast? 10/04/2011 at 14:09 #14946 | |
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Late Turn
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welshdragon said:Chester PSB (Chain to Croess Newydd, Sandhills, Mickle Trafford and Crewe) Perhaps needless to say, the method of signalling between boxes (AB, TCB, ETB etc.) is completely different to the means of controlling the signalling (lever frame, NX panel etc.). For example, Rockcliffe Hall will work TCB one way (to Chester PSB) and presumably AB towards Holywell. Despite having an NX panel, Llandudno Junction works AB to at least Deganwy and ETB to Llanrwst - not sure about towards Abergele and Bangor. Closer to (my) home, Swinderby on the Newark - Lincoln line has almost the typical AB textbook layout - distant, home and starter in each direction, worked off a lever frame - but is entirely TCB. Llanfair PG might be in the middle of an AB section, but the fact that it's not a block post means that it can't work AB itself! Little details, but hopefully will avoid some potential confusion... Tom Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 11/04/2011 at 20:11 #15001 | |
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headshot119
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Llandudno Junction box works AB to both Abergele and to Bangor. The same way as Croess Newydd works AB to Gobowen, AB to Dee Marsh (Or Penyfford).
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| north wales coast? 10/06/2011 at 18:31 #16466 | |
beast66606
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Beeston is alive and well, fringing to Chester and working to Crewe Steel works. For information Chester does NOT fringe with Merseyrail - Hooton is in the middle. Holyhead was rewired a few years back which would explain the diagram. Log in to reply |
| north wales coast? 10/06/2011 at 21:36 #16468 | |
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headshot119
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That's for going the fact that Hooton box is due to close next year, with a new bit of panel due to be added into Chester PSB.
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| north wales coast? 13/06/2011 at 08:06 #16523 | |
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beast66606
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headshot119 said:That's for going the fact that Hooton box is due to close next year, with a new bit of panel due to be added into Chester PSB.I wouldn't count that chicken just yet, Hooton is not due to close at all, the signalmen were due to be told in April and nothing has been forthcoming - that's aside from other inside information I have. That's not saying it won't be recontrolled but at the moment it's not certain. Of course fhe simulation could pretend that Helsby, Frodsham Junction and Hooton had all closed to extend the area of interest. Log in to reply |