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| Some location issues and routing problems 23/04/2011 at 13:36 #2910 | |
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While I was studying the tiploc location listed on the wiki and trying to built some timetable movement in some not usually used location, I came on some problems in finding a valid timetable route or in route contested by the driver. 1) A train in Barnetby Reception Sdgs (BNTBYRS) booked to leave in the up direction, with next location BKBY (Brocklesby Junction) contested the route from BE34 to BE35, BE39, B42, BE25, BE21. I have found this problem with the train 6P22-0 in the supplied timetable. The timetable editor accept these two location, but the train calls saying the route is not correct. If I remember correctly the train calls from BE34 and not from BE35. 2) WBTNEJ (West Buton East Jn) is in the tiploc list, but it is not available in the timetable editor. 3) West Burton PS (Cripples). I am not able to use it as an entry point. First of all I am correct in assuming that it is the siding between GF82 and GF83? If I use it as an entry point, I can not get any path validated by the timetable editor. I was able to get a train to enter in this side, but only if leaving from West Burton Power Station and the reversing at GF83. There is not a location West Burton PS GF82 in the timetable where to reverse the train. 4) Path not found from entrance Clarborough Jn to location West Burton West Junction 5) The timetable editor give me no option to set a timetable move from Immingham East Jn to TI Oxide Sdg GF (but if a train with a different timetable has already passed Immingham East Jn and moving toward to TI Oxide Sdg GF, has its timetable changed to timetable containing Immingham East Jn, TI Oxide Sdg GF, TI Oxide Sdg with current/netxt location set to TI Oxide Sdg GF, then the train stop correctly at TI Oxide Sdg GF and then eneter in TI Oxide Sdg). 6) the same as in 5 for Christopher smaller GF (but here I also have a problem in finding the name for Christopher smaller as its name start with Immingham, and it is llisted in the tiploc list under Immingham). 7) in the timetable editor I can see Immingham East Jn IE202 (Rev) but I can not find it in the simulation (in the tiploc list and in the pdf map, IE202 is also assigned incorrectly to Freight Terminal Sidings, with is actually IE201). On the other end I can not found a location in the timetable editor or in the tiploc list to have a train to reverse at IE36 or at IR20 (IR 20 actually seems strange to me, I could not see a reason why a train should use it, and there is not in the pdf map). 8) The timetable editor could not find a valid path from Wrawby Jn WJ49 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF. The same from Wrawby Jn WJ21 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF, while it was able to find a path from Wrawby Jn WJ32 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF. If a train is stopped (and reversed) at Wrawby Jn WJ21 (Rev) and has its next location to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF a route from WJ21 to BE2 and to BE7 is accepted by the train. However if a train is standing at WJ32 or WJ49 and routed in similar way the driver phone to contest the route. 9) In the timetable editor when Barnetby is select as location you can select the LINE has all of these options: DG, DGL, DS, FL, SL, US. Not only it is not very clear to me what are they referring exaclty, but I could not do some movment that I would consider possible to do. If I put in the timetable a movment from Barnetby to Barnetby BE27 (Rev) the editor tell me that the first on should have Line=DS. However I should be able to reach the signal BE27 and BE21 also from platform 2 (UF) and from signal BE39 (DG or DGL, I do not know), and may be also from platform 3 (from shunt BE25) and platform 4 (from shunt BE42). If a train (for instance after exiting from up siding) need to go from platform 1 to Barnetby BE27 (Rev) and then to platform 4 the timetable editor requires me to have for the last location line=DS. If this same train has to go further in down direction to Wrawby Jn WJ32 (Rev) the timetable editor requires that the train leave from Barnetby from line=SL (the only way to solve this was to create two train, the first arriving on the DS line and this train becoming the second train leaving from SL). 10) While there are some reversing points at Gainsborough Central and at Gainsborough Trent Jn, there are no location to use this reversing points (shunt signals GC7, TJ15, TJ20) . The same for reversing near Stow park level crossing (SP12, SP14). 11) A train coming from Brig can enter Kirton Lime siding using the point at the up side (the one that you can control directly, without the use of the ground frame). However the timetable editor could not found a path from Brig to Kirton Lime siding. (if is timetabled as Brigg, Kirton Lime siding GF, Kirton Lime siding, it enter correctly using the other point, the one worked by ground frame). A down train coming from Gainsborough Central could not been timetable to go to Kirton Lime siding as the timetable editor could not find path from Kirton Lindsey to neither Kirton Lime siding or Kirton Lime siding GF. Log in to reply |
| Some location issues and routing problems 23/04/2011 at 13:36 #15301 | |
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While I was studying the tiploc location listed on the wiki and trying to built some timetable movement in some not usually used location, I came on some problems in finding a valid timetable route or in route contested by the driver. 1) A train in Barnetby Reception Sdgs (BNTBYRS) booked to leave in the up direction, with next location BKBY (Brocklesby Junction) contested the route from BE34 to BE35, BE39, B42, BE25, BE21. I have found this problem with the train 6P22-0 in the supplied timetable. The timetable editor accept these two location, but the train calls saying the route is not correct. If I remember correctly the train calls from BE34 and not from BE35. 2) WBTNEJ (West Buton East Jn) is in the tiploc list, but it is not available in the timetable editor. 3) West Burton PS (Cripples). I am not able to use it as an entry point. First of all I am correct in assuming that it is the siding between GF82 and GF83? If I use it as an entry point, I can not get any path validated by the timetable editor. I was able to get a train to enter in this side, but only if leaving from West Burton Power Station and the reversing at GF83. There is not a location West Burton PS GF82 in the timetable where to reverse the train. 4) Path not found from entrance Clarborough Jn to location West Burton West Junction 5) The timetable editor give me no option to set a timetable move from Immingham East Jn to TI Oxide Sdg GF (but if a train with a different timetable has already passed Immingham East Jn and moving toward to TI Oxide Sdg GF, has its timetable changed to timetable containing Immingham East Jn, TI Oxide Sdg GF, TI Oxide Sdg with current/netxt location set to TI Oxide Sdg GF, then the train stop correctly at TI Oxide Sdg GF and then eneter in TI Oxide Sdg). 6) the same as in 5 for Christopher smaller GF (but here I also have a problem in finding the name for Christopher smaller as its name start with Immingham, and it is llisted in the tiploc list under Immingham). 7) in the timetable editor I can see Immingham East Jn IE202 (Rev) but I can not find it in the simulation (in the tiploc list and in the pdf map, IE202 is also assigned incorrectly to Freight Terminal Sidings, with is actually IE201). On the other end I can not found a location in the timetable editor or in the tiploc list to have a train to reverse at IE36 or at IR20 (IR 20 actually seems strange to me, I could not see a reason why a train should use it, and there is not in the pdf map). 8) The timetable editor could not find a valid path from Wrawby Jn WJ49 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF. The same from Wrawby Jn WJ21 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF, while it was able to find a path from Wrawby Jn WJ32 (Rev) to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF. If a train is stopped (and reversed) at Wrawby Jn WJ21 (Rev) and has its next location to Barnetby Up Sdgs GF a route from WJ21 to BE2 and to BE7 is accepted by the train. However if a train is standing at WJ32 or WJ49 and routed in similar way the driver phone to contest the route. 9) In the timetable editor when Barnetby is select as location you can select the LINE has all of these options: DG, DGL, DS, FL, SL, US. Not only it is not very clear to me what are they referring exaclty, but I could not do some movment that I would consider possible to do. If I put in the timetable a movment from Barnetby to Barnetby BE27 (Rev) the editor tell me that the first on should have Line=DS. However I should be able to reach the signal BE27 and BE21 also from platform 2 (UF) and from signal BE39 (DG or DGL, I do not know), and may be also from platform 3 (from shunt BE25) and platform 4 (from shunt BE42). If a train (for instance after exiting from up siding) need to go from platform 1 to Barnetby BE27 (Rev) and then to platform 4 the timetable editor requires me to have for the last location line=DS. If this same train has to go further in down direction to Wrawby Jn WJ32 (Rev) the timetable editor requires that the train leave from Barnetby from line=SL (the only way to solve this was to create two train, the first arriving on the DS line and this train becoming the second train leaving from SL). 10) While there are some reversing points at Gainsborough Central and at Gainsborough Trent Jn, there are no location to use this reversing points (shunt signals GC7, TJ15, TJ20) . The same for reversing near Stow park level crossing (SP12, SP14). 11) A train coming from Brig can enter Kirton Lime siding using the point at the up side (the one that you can control directly, without the use of the ground frame). However the timetable editor could not found a path from Brig to Kirton Lime siding. (if is timetabled as Brigg, Kirton Lime siding GF, Kirton Lime siding, it enter correctly using the other point, the one worked by ground frame). A down train coming from Gainsborough Central could not been timetable to go to Kirton Lime siding as the timetable editor could not find path from Kirton Lindsey to neither Kirton Lime siding or Kirton Lime siding GF. Log in to reply |