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BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 25/03/2012 at 11:20 #30896
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All,

Files submitted to admin for the TT, hopefully be available for you all to have a go at soon.

**NOT BEEN TESTED, SO PLEASE REPORT ANY ISSUES** - Thank you

Dibbs.

When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 25/03/2012 at 11:28 #30897
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Cheers Dibbs, saw you doing some work on this at the meet and it looks like a good one! Will have a run through at some point

Sam

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 25/03/2012 at 12:36 #30898
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Look forward to this!

Bristol's a bit big for me, so this looks like prime cut for an MP game

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 25/03/2012 at 14:47 #30904
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ill have a bash for you Dibbs, or as mentioned above, a multiplayer would be a good shout
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 26/03/2012 at 17:40 #30937
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has the TT not been approved for download yet?
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 29/03/2012 at 18:38 #31063
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Slight bug Paul


  • 5V97 arrives into platform 12 but overhangs. I assume in real life they come in from various places and couple up to go and stable. (3 X 150s + 158)

  • 6D09 after running loco round overhangs at St Andrews.

  • 5Z53 is too long to fit between between signal 48 and signal 537


"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 29/03/2012 at 19:23 #31065
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Errm...

" said:
**NOT BEEN TESTED, SO PLEASE REPORT ANY ISSUES** - Thank you

Dibbs.

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 29/03/2012 at 19:25 #31066
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" said:
Errm...

" said:
**NOT BEEN TESTED, SO PLEASE REPORT ANY ISSUES** - Thank you

Dibbs.
Hence I am testing it for him.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 31/03/2012 at 06:54 #31084
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Slight bug Paul


  • 5V97 arrives into platform 12 but overhangs. I assume in real life they come in from various places and couple up to go and stable. (3 X 150s + 158)

  • 6D09 after running loco round overhangs at St Andrews.

  • 5Z53 is too long to fit between between signal 48 and signal 537

Fortunately, on my train yesterday I was able to have a little play until about 06:00 and have got the following for those mentioned above:

5V97 - I need to change the seed point for that one, to either Bristol East Depot or Kingsland Road - thinking the former due to 4C07.
6D09 - Experieneced this too, Didcot coals are now formed 66 & 25 HTA (425m) - After attaching loco reverse direction & it WILL fit.
5Z53 - Route towards Bedminster - it WILL return to the signal at West Junction at train time for routing into BTM to form 1Z53.

Thanks so far Karl, appreciate these - keep them coming!

When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 08/04/2012 at 21:01 #31408
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Thank you to the appropriate person for a great timetable!

I have a question regarding train 4D24/6D09 at Avonmouth. 4D24 arrives at BHT north 2, releases the loco which then performs the run round and reattaches to the train. This then automatically steps up to train 6D09. Neither the timetable for 4D24 of 6D09 seems to feature the loading terminal bit - have I missed something?

6D09 asked for permission to move as it was overhanging the points at St Andrews - I assumed it wanted to go backwards and allowed it, but it departed forwards back to Didcot several hours early and it would seem sans coal.

I'm sure this is something obvious !

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 08/04/2012 at 21:18 #31409
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I suspect its because the BHT is broken in the latest version of Bristol. I found I needed the latest version for this TT to work, so was relieved that the BHT wasn't actually used properly.
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 09/04/2012 at 00:03 #31411
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" said:
Thank you to the appropriate person for a great timetable!

I have a question regarding train 4D24/6D09 at Avonmouth. 4D24 arrives at BHT north 2, releases the loco which then performs the run round and reattaches to the train. This then automatically steps up to train 6D09. Neither the timetable for 4D24 of 6D09 seems to feature the loading terminal bit - have I missed something?

6D09 asked for permission to move as it was overhanging the points at St Andrews - I assumed it wanted to go backwards and allowed it, but it departed forwards back to Didcot several hours early and it would seem sans coal.

I'm sure this is something obvious !
There is a bug in this current version of Bristol, The Loading Terminal roads are not working. Coal is loaded by other means in the Arr/Dep roads. These trains should wait for their due departure time.
Barry

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 09/04/2012 at 06:41 #31413
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until it is fixed, there's just a couple of guys with some shovels. so keep it there a while :D

~G

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 09/04/2012 at 17:24 #31421
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" said:

6D09 asked for permission to move as it was overhanging the points at St Andrews - I assumed it wanted to go backwards and allowed it, but it departed forwards back to Didcot several hours early and it would seem sans coal.
When the loco has joined, use the F2 menu to reverse it fully in to the siding, then wait for it to give TRTS. It may give it very early, however you can leave it sitting there until departure time if you wish (select the 'Call back at xx:xx' option when the driver phones up to prevent him constantly ringing!)

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 09/04/2012 at 19:19 #31425
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Thank you all for your replies! I think the problem has been sorted
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 09/04/2012 at 22:27 #31432
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If you could continue to kindly post any issues or problems within this topic, I shall go through & amend the TT accordingly on my master copy before re-uploading. Thanks for you co-operation :cheer: .
When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:41 #31536
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dibbs, i believe there is a problem with the timetable rule with 5t34.
the rule currently says that he must not depart from bristol temple meads until 1 minute after 2c93 arrives at bristol temple meads.
this means that 5t34 instead of parking out of the way in the hls for about 2 hours 15 to allow platforms 3 and 4 to be used, stays blocking platform 3 (also meaning that 2c93 won't be able to enter platform 4 anyway)
the only other prblem i've encountered so far is the dmus coming out of marsh junction all trundle down and reverse at bedminster station on the carriage line. is this right? cause i thought it makes more sense for them to park up where the text carriage line is actually printed which has the location of bristol west jn CWM (meaning there is none of the pointless trundling to basically the sleeper chained to the rails for them to trundle all the way back again)
other than that all seems to of gone well, just approaching 1940 now so i'll run the last few hours and let you know of anything else
Nath

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:44 #31537
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I must say I wondered why there was all this running all the way to Bedminister and back - wondered if perhaps one way the stock should go for a wash, that's what I do to make it worthwhile! :)

Alan

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:46 #31538
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there used to be a carriage washer there i believe but it hasn't existed there for over 20 years, the washing machine is inside st philips now
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:47 #31539
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there used to be a carriage washer there i believe but it hasn't existed there for over 20 years, the washing machine is inside st philips now
Ah, I thought the lower line marked CWM was the carriage wash machine!

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:51 #31540
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I wondered that myself to be honest Nathan, I will have to a word with my friend in train planning to ascertain where they do reverse.

I have a sneaky suspicion its opposite the old CWM and possibly in the platforms @ Bedminster. I only followed the info I took from my official source at work, and that just showed Bedminster, although I did get line codes too, so will have a closer look for the next release.

Also will have a look @ the 5T34 rule.

Thanks

When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 15:58 #31541
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" said:
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there used to be a carriage washer there i believe but it hasn't existed there for over 20 years, the washing machine is inside st philips now
Ah, I thought the lower line marked CWM was the carriage wash machine!

yeah its just the ex one it will be one of these silly railway things where well it has a name so there no need to rename it even though its name is now completely useless

cheers dibbs, right back to sim

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 17:54 #31548
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Hehe, so I've been sending my trains that way expecting them to come out all nice and clean, but its made no difference! B)
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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 12/04/2012 at 20:49 #31553
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another one for you
1v69/5v69 is too long for platform 1 would prob guess platform 3 or 4 would be better for it

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Another one again
1F36 pulls into platform 9 at temple meads at 11. 5m24 which follows him is ment to pull into platform 10 after 1f36 departs, however because 1f36 has a divide leaving 5f36 in temple meads, 5m24 can't get to platform 10.

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and again
0z54 departs from platform 5/6 to do a run around and uses the UT to run around. His reversal location at the east endof temple meads you have down as BTM east Reverse (B558/560/562) however there isn't a route from the UT to platform 5 via this reversal point. should it not be Bristol TM East inner reverse?
Also 0z54 has the instruction to DER from 1Z54, i presume this is ment to be DEF else his runaround doesn't make any sense (aswel as not being possible to do)
Also this is possible correct, but 5t47 and 5f36 both have the exact same timings for their trips from temple meads to marsh jn. they're also ment to both reverse on carriage line at the exact same time too.

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Re: BRISTOL 2012 - Saturday 10th March 23/04/2012 at 13:24 #31743
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Cheers Nathan, there were a couple of ECS moves that did operate, that actually had the same times from Bristol T.M. to Marsh Jn Sdgs. I had to check, check and re-check again, even so much as using the system at work to ascertain what they did. But have noted your obs and shall continue to edit the TT accordingly. Thank you again.
When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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