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| High Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 11:57 #34668 | |
sedriver
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Hi All, My suggestion in High Speed 1 the line which runs from St Pancras (London) to Dollands More (Folkestone). I think it could be quite a good sim as it is quite a simple line but because of the vast space covered I could imagine it being quite challenging at times. Feedback welcome, Josh Last edited: 06/08/2012 at 17:23 by mfcooper Reason: Title change: Hight -> High Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 12:14 #34671 | |
jc92
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i dont think SimSig can simulate moving block cab signalling. however while on the subject, id like to see the kent coast line to sittingbourne and faversham covered.
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 12:33 #34672 | |
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JamesN
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HS1 hasn't got moving block, it's fixed blocks just like normal signalling, just the indications are displayed in the cab not with pretty lights at the side of the track.
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 13:21 #34673 | |
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alvinhochun
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Don't quite understand the Wikipedia page, Last edited: 06/08/2012 at 15:31 by alvinhochun Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 13:27 #34674 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
" said:HS1 hasn't got moving block, it's fixed blocks just like normal signalling, just the indications are displayed in the cab not with pretty lights at the side of the track.I guess thats what those pretty triangles are at the side of the track? It would work then, with movement orders given as per routes being set, but wouldnt it basically be a long section of double track with not much to really do? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 15:44 #34680 | |
ajax103
1120 posts |
I wouldn't have thought it would be possible as Ashford is a IECC and therefore not possible unless someone had plans and data prior to Ashford IECC taking over responsibility for the signalling in the area?
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 15:52 #34681 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
Err, Ashford IECC was here before the line therefore there are no plans from before they took over!
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 15:52 #34682 | |
GeoffM
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" said:I wouldn't have thought it would be possible as Ashford is a IECC and therefore not possible unless someone had plans and data prior to Ashford IECC taking over responsibility for the signalling in the area?HS1 is a new line with the in-cab signalling from day one. Yes it's controlled from Ashford but it's not IECC equipment. I saw some pictures online just a few days ago but I can't remember where! SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 16:04 #34687 | |
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ajax103
1120 posts |
I could have sworn it was, after seeing that video about the different signalling that was here not so long ago.
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 16:51 #34693 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
To be technically correct there are two 'boxes' in one building. Ashford IECC controls the 'classics' from Folkestone through to Elmstead Woods, whilst on the same 'signalling floor' is the AFC which controls HS1 from it's border with the tunnel, through to St Pancras. Both use completly different signalling systems & staff and are technically part of different companies (Network Rail & Network rail (CTRL) Ltd)
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| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 17:22 #34694 | |
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mfcooper
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" said:...Both use completly different signalling systems & staff and are technically part of different companies (Network Rail & Network rail (CTRL) Ltd)Which signallers have to speak French? I assume all CTRL and the Dollands Moor workstation of the IECC? Also, what does AFC stand for, in this case? Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 19:16 #34708 | |
BarryM
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" said:" said:Australian Fibreoptic Communications....Both use completly different signalling systems & staff and are technically part of different companies (Network Rail & Network rail (CTRL) Ltd)Which signallers have to speak French? I assume all CTRL and the Dollands Moor workstation of the IECC? Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply The following user said thank you: guidomcc |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 20:05 #34710 | |
Peter Bennet
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" said:Seems to be a takeaway in Ashford! http://www.thomsonlocal.com/AFC/0382878215307547000/companyinfo.html Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 06/08/2012 at 20:05 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Hight Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 20:12 #34711 | |
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Josie
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" said:" said:Ashford Fried Chicken? I wonder whether Mr Chicken made their sign.Seems to be a takeaway in Ashford! http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2009/march/meet-mr-chicken Log in to reply |
| High Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 20:17 #34712 | |
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benstafford
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The signallers don't speak French, the drivers have to speak English, French and Flemish to communicate with each countries signallers in their own langauage.
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| High Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 20:21 #34713 | |
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Copping
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" said:The signallers don't speak French, the drivers have to speak English, French and Flemish to communicate with each countries signallers in their own langauage.Not really, I know an ex Eurostar driver and she didn't have to learn French or speak it, most of the French and Brussels signallers spoke english anyways. Log in to reply |
| High Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 22:13 #34718 | |
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Danny252
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I'd love to hear the safety case for that one - would they hear "Arretez!" over the radio but keep chugging along like nothing's happened?
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| High Speed 1 06/08/2012 at 22:22 #34719 | |
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Underwood
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I'm sure the application process requires a grade in French though. Watching the Eurostar Video 125 cab ride, I'm sure the driver was speaking French before the tunnel, and English on the other side?
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| High Speed 1 07/08/2012 at 01:08 #34723 | |
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mfcooper
707 posts |
A story from my work colleague... When the Eurostars were going into Waterloo, there was a need to speak to a Eurostar driver in the area of Panel 10 at Victoria. When communication was established, a shout was heard throughout the box - "Does anyone speak any French?" - for the driver knew no / very little English. One man piped up "I do", and picked up the radio handset. He speaks in his finest French Accent (think 'Allo 'Allo) " 'ello driveur, what iz ze problem?" Log in to reply The following users said thank you: guidomcc, JamesN, Josie, andyb0607 |
| High Speed 1 17/08/2012 at 10:13 #34979 | |
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kbarber
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I understood that Eurostar drivers were required to be bilingual (trilingual if working to Brussels) and that a great deal of training was given, including total immersion learning for significant periods. For freight drivers UIC rules applied - traincrew working through to a border station are entitled to be dealt with in their own language. The drivers selected for freight working from Dollands Moor in 1994 were nonetheless given a significant amount of training in French but it was always regarded as "comfort" French, although the selection process included a test to see how easy they would find language learning. Dollands Moor staff were part of the M&EE Dept so I don't quite know what was done for them, they were the people who were actually required to use French. The traction trainers and traction inspector appointed to Dollands Moor in preparation for 1994 needed a mujch higher level of French, as they were required to learn SNCF R&R (and later, as the Cl 92s weren't ready in time, they had to train the drivers to work Cl BB22200). In the end those three spent quite a while driving trains all over Northern France (and were given translated SNCF Drivers' certificates for their trouble); apparently they had a whale of a time! I was involved in the selection process and I know we tested them for language aptitude and that they did acquire a very high level of spoken French by the end of the process. Log in to reply |
| High Speed 1 17/08/2012 at 14:39 #34980 | |
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clive
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Google for "cow with a pantograph".
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| High Speed 1 17/08/2012 at 20:47 #34992 | |
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guidomcc
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" said:Google for "cow with a pantograph".Quote: VGV = Vache a Grande Vitesse Last edited: 17/08/2012 at 20:48 by guidomcc Log in to reply |